17 HMR

Grover Sr
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 19:01 (3086 days ago)

The CMP has opened a range about an hour away from my house. Now that I will have access to a range in excess of 100 yards i want to add a 30-06 to my rifle arsenal, (deal pending with another misfit).

Where I need some feedback, advice and reviews here is on locating 14" G2 17 HMRs a rifle as well as what seemed best for your shooting and why. I have seen CZ 455's with both a 17 and 22 barrel for right at $600 new. Also want to consider the Ruger American Target and Savage. Hopefully I will be able to find a good used oone. WB says the 14" will be good practice for many of Gary's cartrs

Thanks vuys

I have a Savage 93 w/Laminated Thumbhole stock

WB
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 19:34 (3086 days ago) @ Grover Sr

and heavy barrel. The Accu-trigger is usable. It's heavy and tinny, the mag is so cheap looking but the thing works and shoots into a dime at 100 yds. It's only true endearing quality to me. I also HATE that thumbhole stock. Would much prefer the regular target stock model. I've never heard of a Savage that didn't shoot like crazy, either a $200 model or $400 one. They have too many to choose from these days.

This is the model I have, different colored stock.
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I had a Ruger 77 with walnut stock and loved the gun. But it was simply not in the class as the Savage as to accuracy. The trigger needed help too. Plus it was expensive, but I came out on it overall. I still like them.

Doug and my friends have and had CZ's. A REAL rifle, certainly not inexpensive, but worth the cost asked. They are quality, shoot the eyes out, and hold value well. My favorite and pick would be the 455 American.

Anytime you can buy something of quality, use it carefully a few years, and make money on is a win-win. Good guns are not cheap, cheap guns are not good, but some sure do shoot.

Actually I was eyeing the CZ 455 and

Grover Sr
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 19:51 (3086 days ago) @ WB

It comes with two barrels - 17 hmr and 22 LR for $595 on gunbroker.

LR or WMR? Sako made one too a while back.

WB
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 20:50 (3086 days ago) @ Grover Sr

Usually the .17 MKII is mated to the .22 LR as magazines are common. Ditto the .17 HMR and .22 WMR. Just double check before you pull a trigger. lol

My Ruger was a special 2 (factory Ruger) barrels in .17 HMR and .22 WMR. I tried swapping barrels w/o messing with the scope but it would move the POI about 2". No issues with ammo run shortages.

I love the Manlicher CZ. Doug has one.

17MK2 thought and personal 17 cal experience.

Gus S.
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 06:20 (3086 days ago) @ WB

I've shot a lot of 17 HMR rifles. When it was new, it was the new hot thing at my old shooting range. Everybody with an extra $300 was buying one. Honestly, I can't recall one from another from back then but I can't recall any that were horrible. They all seemed accurate enough. However, I've spent quality time with three 17 HMR rifles. A stainless heavy Barrel Savage, a Henry Varmint, and a Henry octagon. My good friend and hunting buddy has the Savage. Like WB said, dime groups at 100 yard. We were knocking the caps off of 20 oz soda bottles at that range with ease. The Henry's belong to my father and myself. He bought me the Octagon for my 40th birthday. I've shot mine enough to sight it in with iron sights and done some squirrel hunting, too. Anything the size of a small house cat would get smoked at 100 yards through iron sights. Dad's rifle has a Burris 2-7 on it. It's as accurate as the Savage. The Henry's trigger feels like it breaks a little heavier than the Savage, but it feels cleaner to me. At 100 yards that rifle will eat the orange out of a bullseye. We started with the Hornady red tip ammo. But, I found I like the CCI Game point or FMJs much better. Accuracy was good with either. Which brings me to the 17 MK2. I had the opportunity to hunt a weekend with a 17 MK2 rifle (rebarrelled 10/22). That thing was just great for rabbit and squirrel. A little messier than 22 lr, but shot like a laser beam out to 75 yards or so. I took my daughter on her first squirrel hunt with the 17HMR thinking It'd be great. Well... It was a mess. That ballistic tip ammo just exploded squirrels and turned them inside out. Looked like a gut pile. Blew heads clean off. My daughter was really turned off. Switching from the ballistic tip stuff to the FMJs and Game points resolved that. It resolved my personal issues with the HMR and left me enough meat on the squirrels for a stew.

Man,.. now I want to go pop some rabbits and squirrels.

Alt sourcing FYI

backroadsrambler
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 22:19 (3086 days ago) @ Grover Sr

I hope this doesn’t derail the thread too much but

O’ Gary
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 20:49 (3086 days ago) @ WB

what about the 17 WSM? It’s a hypersonic .17 caliber rimfire. Thoughts?
Ammo is $13

I've not researched it too much but

WB
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 20:59 (3086 days ago) @ O’ Gary

Initially read that the round (derived from a nail gun case) had much thicker rims and required special striker considerations. Not just any gun could be adapted to it. But I've never read any negative shooting reports. Sometimes good cartridges and ideas never really take hold. The .17 HMR did but the .17 MKII fell short. I thought there was room for both, I was wrong. I hear the semi-auto is quite popular.

Looking at all the new cool guns these days, very innovate designs, makes me feel old.

I've got the same rifle in stainless and it is the most

DinCA
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 17:45 (3085 days ago) @ WB

accurate rifle I own.

14 inch

Paul
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 17:17 (3086 days ago) @ Grover Sr

I have a factory 14 (that I got from Gary) with a rifle scope and it shoots like crazy with Hornady ammo. No recoil, not very loud. I have a 17 Single Six also that shoots pretty good. Old eyes and sights, not good. IT IS LOUD!!!!

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