You know Gary did some work with Steve Hornady

WB
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Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 21:19 (3086 days ago)

early on with the .17 HMR. I don't think he liked it (.17 cal.) too much, some mechanical hurdles. If you catch him just right he will confess to some really wild antics in the past fooling with .14 cal. stuff shooting pieces of wire and such silliness. Something like that anyway. Powder variations are so sensitive though I could see his patience running short fast. Some are wired for it but I could see him getting bored quickly. I think I would too.

GNR used to shoot groundhogs in TN he told me. In AZ he has almost no opportunities, so his interests have evolved in a different direction. But shake that tree and he is a trove of info.

In the single shot hunting handgun performance drops with small bore larger capacity rounds. Velocities can fall 750-1000 fps compared to normal rifle length tube. Gary built me a .22 K-hornet 16" that can be both handgun or carbine, it's great. I sold my .17 Remington to switch to the .240 Raptor. Preparing to test the versatility on Hogs and 105 gr. V-max I shot a Muntjac with my revolver in it's place. I found later the 85 gr. at 2600 fps seemed a great loading for anything reasonable from my Contender handgun. I'll have to revisit it and try those little 55-60 gr. pills.

Barrels

Teresa McClure
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 04:13 (3086 days ago) @ WB

WB, would love to pick your brain! Eric had a multitude of barrels. Most of which I am going to offer for sale here. The last firearm he purchased was a 243 rifle for me, which I am thrilled about! But, I am thinking I would like a lil varmint something. Prairie dogs etc. I know we don’t have anything in a 17 caliber. I bought him a Ruger 22 recently, but it is again a rifle.

There is a lot to be said for a rimfire

WB
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 05:53 (3086 days ago) @ Teresa McClure

and no loading considerations, just get a box and shoot for pleasure. We shoot soda cans filled with water at 200 yds. A challenging target. Truly if there is a breeze. One note on small bores, they are hefty! The .17 in particular as the barrel is a solid chunk of metal with a tiny hole in it. That's one thing of note, the Contender in .17 is lots heaver than any other. On the bench that helps with shooting though.

In my view the .17 would be a little marginal for big Coyote without a precise shot, which is very easy with it. Mostly just my thoughts. Where I know of several Whitetails taken with the .22 WMR. If reloading is in the cards the .22 K-hornet is easy to manage, more so than the little .17. I can get over 3000 fps with it using 30 gr. bullets. Gary made me a 16" barrel for it and it can work as a handgun too. Other than that the .223 is a no brainer. We had an Ackley .223 I really liked, shoots factory ammo and loading steps it up smartly.

The .223 has pretty good blast, that's what makes me like the K-hornet. The .17 HMR is between a .22 LR and .22 WMR in blast. I love to load and tinker but the .17 HMR is nice to have around when I get lazy.

How does the 223 perform in

Grover Sr
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 10:24 (3086 days ago) @ WB

A Super 14" barrel? I have one I picked up used with a scope for $ 225. Haven't shot it yet, need to locate a forend to fit it. Seems like the old Pachmayr forend and hanger aren't being made anymore. I would like to find one and the grip with swivel stud for my G2.

About the same performance as a 16" AR

WB
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Thursday, March 29, 2018, 12:52 (3086 days ago) @ Grover Sr

We had one in a .223 Ackley and it helped a little, I didn't work with the cartridge that much. A heavier bullet is more efficient in a handgun length barrel, usually. It's LOUD

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