IT APPEARS KALIFORNIA WILL BAN

JT
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 05:33 (3045 days ago)

AFRICAN BIG FIVE TROPHIES

It is amazing to me

Steve W
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 07:36 (3045 days ago) @ JT

how all these places that used to be where freedom was born or where people went to be free (like CA in the 1800s) have become so anti-freedom. Disgusting.

What's amazing to me is people staying there....

Huey
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 07:51 (3045 days ago) @ Steve W

If the working (tax paying) people would head east, that issue would begin a much needed correction.

Better they stay where they are so as not to infect the rest

DinCA
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 09:19 (3045 days ago) @ Huey

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I have a son and daughter who live just outside L.A.

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 10:32 (3045 days ago) @ DinCA

I have told them time and again to get the hell out but they have kids there. They have good jobs, they have homes etc. They are gun people but won't move.

Its more than that.

Amede
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 07:55 (3045 days ago) @ JT

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1487

Look at the list, and its not just importing, its possessing.

California

David R
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 10:37 (3045 days ago) @ Amede

I cannot think of anything good that comes out of CA anymore. And then there is this.....

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/us/sacramento-stephon-clark-shooting-legislation/index.html

There is nothing "reasonable" . . .

ORG
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 12:25 (3044 days ago) @ David R

. . . in a deadly force encounter. If all involved were reasonable there'd be no bad outcomes.

Any time the word "reasonable" appears in anything related to police encounters it's code for "the perp gets to fire first and then the cop can consider other options" . . . while ducking the incoming.

I really like this line . . .

ORG
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 12:15 (3044 days ago) @ Amede

"By creating new crimes, the bill would impose a state-mandated local program."

An open admission that they'd be "creating new crimes" for the purpose of expanding the bureaucracy as well as filling their coffers.

They're not simply stupid . . . they're evil incarnate.

California

Marvin P
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 10:18 (3045 days ago) @ JT

We don't want any more Californians in Texas They are trying to change us to their ideas They need to stay and reclaim their state instead of infecting the other states

Ca. just mandated solar panels for all new homes

John W
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 15:58 (3044 days ago) @ JT

built in the state. When I saw that news today it did not surprise me in the least. They seem to be the magnet for fruits and nuts.

Back to the main topic. My big question for the African Big Five issue is how will they enforce it?

all taxidermied mounts have to come into the states via a

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, May 09, 2018, 20:17 (3044 days ago) @ John W

customs office, Most guys that hunt in Africa have their mounts done by one of the companies that specialize in African mounts plus those companies take care of a lot of the paperwork which saves them a lot of hassle. Also this bill would not cover only the Big 5. It lists just about everything in Africa from the little 15 lb Duikers to Zebras and Giraffe.

My mounts usually come thru SEA-TAC which is the customs office in Seattle-Tacoma. They inspect each crate coming in and if this bill passes they would have the authority to refuse admittance to California. Another customs office is in L.A. which would simply refuse to release the mounts or even worse confiscate them.

Also if you read the whole bill, by the way I read it the state would have a reward of $500 for a person turning in a friend or someone that owned African mounts. So word would get out pretty quick. Also licensed taxidermists in the state would have to advise the state of anyone shipping hides and horns to them to do the mounting. So it would be a lose-lose proposition.

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