Have not messed with rifles too much in a while

WB
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 08:11 (3040 days ago)

I like handgun hunting and have not played with rifles too much lately. I have mostly M98 type action long guns for my own uses. But for fun and a glimmer of some future hope I am game. I am looking at .338 caliber bolt guns. Most quality used guns are in the $750-1000 price ranges if they have a scope and mounts.

I have found a niche of various used models in the $500-700 range that show exceptional value and investment for a shooter. My first choice will be do I want a more traditional "wood" rifle or a "modern" synthetic TOOL oriented arm for my purposes. Bouncing around on a hunt stocks get dinged, blue gets rubbed, but that is not very often and adds character. But there are some mechanical advantages to synthetic rigs. Heat and cold do not effect the bedding and it's far more consistent in use and function of holding the parts consistently as to tension. For a real use hunting tool this might should not be overlooked. But it's just not as romantic as a well worn wood and blue rig. That will be a decision of a personal nature.

For wood stock guns I have found really good examples in the form of Remington BDL, Ruger 77R (tang safety, a favorite), Winchester M70 Sporter, and Browning A-Bolt in budget ($500-600). I have no experience with the A-bolt but they look serviceable. There are several of the same type sporting synthetic stocks and matte finish, some Brownings in stainless and I found a Tikka synthetic at a deal. Tikka's in my past have been real sleepers and basically factory target grade rifles. The synthetic mags worry me a little but they seem to last and feed buttery smooth.

Several come with serviceable scopes in the 3-9 or 3-10X range. A couple already have aftermarket muzzle brakes attached which would cost a fellow $200 or more to have done, a bonus! It's fun to sit in the living room and market shop prior to hitting the local shops for a look. Deals abound and it's never been a better time for enthusiasts.

I already have a .338 BAR to use and the reloading stuff. In the hunting handgun I also really like the .338 and feel the .338 Federal (.338-08) to be a very overlooked factory ready hunting handgun caliber. My .338 GNR was a delight to work with and great in the TC platform with that lovely rim. I make a 220 gr. RNGC cast bullet that works fine up to 2200-2400 fps or so using surplus .50 BMG powders (in the rifles). A bolt gun will simply be trading off a smaller rifle I no longer am interested in into something to play with for a while. If I shop right it will simply be a displacement for money and might even garner a small later profit as interest. IF I shop and buy right.

A-bolts. All I have owned have been very

Tom S
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 08:17 (3040 days ago) @ WB

accurate. Detachable mag is not super quick to change. The trigger just needs a timney spring to make it very nice. Only real negative was the gloss finish on some. Seems Browning clearcoat/varnish scratches just looking at it. Otherwise very nice.

Yeah that kneed deep varnish is from a by-gone era

WB
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 08:41 (3040 days ago) @ Tom S

It sells guns in the showroom and makes great mechanical bargains a few years later. Actually if you have the skill and time to use some harsh chemical to remove it all and re-do a nice matte hand rubbed Tung finish they can be a great value. I've done that many times and made some extra cash to trade, up for all my efforts, a labor of love.

I think makers use some type of clear lacquer that is spray applied.

We had a Micro-Medallion in 7mm-08 that was nice. The flop down mag was mainly useful for "unloading". We just loaded from the top as normal. In that line I was mainly more attracted to the synthetic versions, some in stainless looked really good. Have to really shop for a bargain, but that's fun.

A big gun like the .338 it seems are bought for a specific trip or goal. Once that passes they become safe queens for a few years until resurrected for some quick cash. They kick too much for a deer rifle or casual shooting for most. That what I capitalize upon.

I forgot about the Weatherby Vanguard line of HOWA built rifles, they too can be had at a great used value. Not many in calibers bigger than.300 Weatherby. But that is a good one!

Mossberg making some great value 338 Win Mags....

Huey
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 08:53 (3040 days ago) @ WB

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Yes, Savage too but boy have they gone up!!!

WB
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 09:04 (3040 days ago) @ Huey

Many of them at too new to have hit the used market. It seems many of these used rifles I see on the used market are form the late 1980's and early 1990 era. Isn't that interesting? Are all those old SCI coots starting to drop over and out?!

That little Pamela lady in SCI who used to handgun hunt all over the world (they had more money that it would take to burn a wet mule! - CA Real Estate) she was not a spring chicken. I think she was in her mid 60's doing all that hunting 10 yr. ago. You can't keep it up forever.

I say go with a Tikka. I have shot one in 338 and it will

Drdougrx
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 09:23 (3040 days ago) @ WB

Jar your teeth loose! BUT....it will shoot moa, have an adj trigger and be lite weight. I’ll replace/add to my collection with Tikka in the future when necessary. I would however, recommend changing the recoil pad to a Sims:limbsaver. Really helps.

I think the one I am looking at has a KDF brake

WB
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 09:31 (3040 days ago) @ Drdougrx

but I also noted the factory 1/4" thick rubber buttplate. What are they thinking?! Perhaps those Finns are a tougher breed!

I put a 1” on my Sako Finnlite in 06. Well worth it.

Drdougrx
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 11:17 (3039 days ago) @ WB

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338

Winn
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 12:04 (3039 days ago) @ WB

I had an old Sako for 20+ years. When TSHTF for me in 2010, I let it go. It was my companion on a dozen big game hunts in the west and Alaska. It was cut to 22 inches with a Macmillan(sp) stock. The saddle rub really worked over the camo finish on the stock but it gave it real character.It was a much more accurate gun than I deserved, 4x fixed scope cuz' I can't hit shit far away. You know you've hit rock bottom when you let go of an old friend like that. Now I'm over compensating with Ruger #1s and Reeders.

Back when I had a FFL I set up a friend with

WB
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 12:29 (3039 days ago) @ Winn

a "do it all forever" rifle. He trusted me and I think at the time I did him pretty well. I got a deal on a matte blue, synthetic Remington 700 with adj. iron sights in .300 Weatherby Mag. cal. He wanted the Wby. cal over the just as effective Winchester. I scoped it with an excellent Leupold 6x40mm fixed 1" scope in Leupold med. mounts. One could easily remove the scope with a coin and shoot irons. We had it Mag-na-ported too which was wonderful, I think it cost $100 at that time.

The 6x40 transmitted max light and was plenty for about anything you had business shooting at. If it was farther than that could manage maybe you should stalk closer. Plus being fixed power it bought you precious seconds NOT screwing with a magnification ring when you should be lining up a possible shot!

Stalk

Winn
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Monday, May 14, 2018, 12:36 (3039 days ago) @ WB

With my shooting skills, stalking is better and more fun too. If I can kill'em with a rock, I'm close enough.

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