Loopholes
Ed
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Sunday, May 20, 2018, 17:47 (3033 days ago)
We had better watch our asses with the manufacturers selling products like the bump stocks and ghost guns that are copies of Glock frames that the user finishes at home without registering. Soon we will not be able to use any custom parts and may even have our reloading components taken away from us because of this stupidity.
the chances of that happening are very slim. I do
Gary Reeder
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Sunday, May 20, 2018, 19:36 (3033 days ago) @ Ed
agree that the idiots that are buying the 80% frames and building them themselves with no serial numbers are possibly going to get us in a bind. Those 80% guns are an accident looking for a place to happen. A person can buy one of them and put it together for his own use but he can never sell it. I have heard of idiots buying them by the dozen and selling them to friends. All we need is a shooting to take place with one of these non-serialed numbered guns and the shit could hit the fan.
To your point Gary, this 80% business....
SMH
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Sunday, May 20, 2018, 23:03 (3033 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
came up in my discussion with firearms attorney a few years ago and he almost jumped out of his chair screaming NOoo. Good enough for me, never did, never will. Best $400 consultation fee dollars I ever spent.
We've been poking the bear with a sharp stick . . .
ORG
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Monday, May 21, 2018, 07:26 (3033 days ago) @ SMH
. . . with the 80% stuff and the AR15 "pistols" and the bump stocks and the "not really a sawed-off" shotguns and all the rest for quite a while now. This is eventually gonna come home to bite us all in the ass. I don't necessarily agree with that, but you just know it's gonna happen. The atmosphere is getting close . . .
one of my friends is high up in the ATF and right now
Gary Reeder
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Monday, May 21, 2018, 10:16 (3032 days ago) @ ORG
they are mainly concerned with the bump stocks but are not happy with the idiots buying all the 80% guns and selling them with no serial numbers.
I just got off the phone with my friend in the ATF and
Gary Reeder
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Monday, May 21, 2018, 11:08 (3032 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
He just laughed. He said the chances of that are non-existent. Like I mentioned above the bump stocks and the 80% guns with no serial numbers are what they are concerned with right now.
you don't have any friends
Kelly Brost
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Monday, May 21, 2018, 12:55 (3032 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
If it wasn't for your skills nobody would talk to you.
Well crud I didn't read the board policy
Kelly Brost
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Monday, May 21, 2018, 12:57 (3032 days ago) @ Kelly Brost
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Gary told me you couldn't read.
IC
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Monday, May 21, 2018, 20:11 (3032 days ago) @ Kelly Brost
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The reason the ATF is hot on the bump stocks . . .
ORG
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Tuesday, May 22, 2018, 17:20 (3031 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
. . .is because that's the "hot ticket" with all the anti-gunners both on the civilian scene ("the kids") and all the politicians seeking to insure their re-election and promising to "do something". The minute that issue tapers off a little and some doofus starts blathering about something else, that will become the ATF's prime concern. They're gonna do whatever the Congress authorizes and that's exactly what they're supposed to do. They are not an independent entity that makes up the law as they go, and we sure don't want 'em to be. They switched their position on bump stocks when Trump "suggested" they "re-evaluate" the definitions.
I personally don't have a problem with the ATF as long as they play by the rules. It's Congress wee gotta worry about, and all the states and municipalities "making law" as they see fit . . . and Presidential "suggestions".