Before you start thinking your pocket .380 is .25 ACP sized

WB
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Saturday, June 30, 2018, 13:32 (2992 days ago)

I really like the super small .380's concept and the teeny bit larger 9mm are fantastic. But the old .25 ACP is about as small as you can go and still manage it.

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I chose the Kahr because it was the smallest that had REAL sights on it that I could see. The Ruger and others are comparable, up to your personal tastes. Sights on a pocket piece are arguable but by golly that's what I wanted, at least drift adj. sights that I could see. I also like no "safety" or other buttons or gadgets to get in the way. I'll be more careful not to shoot myself (or anyone else) in the butt, with the hefty long trigger DA pull.

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Interestingly the blowback and all steel .25 has three safety features. A manual lever, grip safety, and mag. disconnect. It is also 1.5 oz. heavier with no mag than the .380 at just under 12 oz.

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No contest as to the power but a .25 in your pocket in a time of need is better than a .380 left in your truck glove box. For last ditch they are still valid. We ordered new grips and figured the stiff mag extraction issue. The grip screws were swapped, they were protruding and dragging on the mag through the frame! A simple fix. She's a keeper.

My 25 ft. group, got to show out for Roman. He struggled with a consistent grip and opened up his shooting considerably.
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Give me a large rock over the .25

Woody
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Saturday, June 30, 2018, 14:19 (2992 days ago) @ WB

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You're just biased, it's probably ballistically superior to

WB
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Saturday, June 30, 2018, 14:31 (2992 days ago) @ Woody

a .22 RF. Drilling something before it can get to you is paramount. Stopping is another matter, it depends on the mindset of whatever is attacking you. Goerg wrote of modfying a .25 ACP to shoot Partridges or Grouse (some of those birds we don't have around here). They laughed at him till he connected and was successful. I think JD had some connection to a .25 as an early shooting experience, and I know it was not mangy pimps.

When I was 14 or 15 I traded a cheap knife and $12 for a Beretta M1919 with Waffen stamps or Model 418 as it was later known. My dad paid $6.50 for a box of W-W 50 gr. FMJ when .22 RF was $0.55 per box. It actually was the very first CF handgun I ever owned. (regretfully I later sold it for $85) It took a bit of skill to hold but it was actually accurate at 20 yds. Nobody told me it was for close range. Two years later I owned a .44 SBH and was on my way!

I mean YOU do shoot a .505 Gibbs...

WB
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Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:41 (2992 days ago) @ WB

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and SA revolvers in 475max and 500 S&W, so biased maybe

Woody
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Sunday, July 01, 2018, 10:00 (2991 days ago) @ WB

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NEVER TAKE A ROCK, EVEN A

JT
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Saturday, June 30, 2018, 15:46 (2992 days ago) @ Woody

LARGE ROCK TO A GUNFIGHT

a 25 auto is to be carried when all else fails. At 10 feet

Gary Reeder
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Saturday, June 30, 2018, 19:43 (2991 days ago) @ JT

my Budischowsky will keep all 5 shots in a playing card, which means it will keep them in a person's face. And that is good enough for me. I know several cops that have lived thru a gunfight due to their little 25 auto in an ankle holster. I keep several of them stashed around as a just in case gun. That is all they are meant for.

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