Question about the 338 Falcon and other 30-30 based..
Huey
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Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 08:58 (2967 days ago)
Cartridges. What will this not kill within normal hunting?
The 30-30 based rounds in a G2 provides tons of safety as far as gun strength. Brass is easy to find, inexpensive, and easy to form. Id even bet most wont need a muzzle brake.
I realize the big cigar sized rounds are impressive eye candy, but...
Good question- I think up to bull elk is reasonable with the
Sean Harper
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Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 09:21 (2967 days ago) @ Huey
330 or 338 Falcon and a well constructed bullet.
Sean
I have not tried a wide variety of .338 JSP
WB
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Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 10:10 (2967 days ago) @ Sean Harper
But the couple I have shot, and mostly the Hornady 200 gr. JSP of a more conventional design, are very tough jacketed. If you do not hit bone you may not get as much expansion as you'd think. Penetration is fantastic though. I was shooting them at 2600 fps muzzle velocity and at 100-200 yds on smaller species they just zipped right through with finger sized exit holes.
This experience was very limited but it would be a good idea to do some testing for yourself. I'd think the Accubond to be even more robustly jacketed. It was my next bullet to be tested. Perhaps the old Partition would fare better with it's softer nose? I'd sure try to find a bullet designed for something besides the .338 Lapua or .338-378 Wby.
Between friends we had a little running rivalry between the 8mm GNR and .338 GNR. I have to admit if normal medium game are your primary use (it performed great on 2 AK Black Bears that I witnessed) the 8mm has an edge in lighter bullets and some bullets literally designed for the handgun obtainable speeds. If I wanted something for really bigger game then the .338 cal. probably has a little edge with real heavy bullet construction.
Just my 2 cents, food for thought.
Most bonded bullets expand easier than regular...
Huey
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Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 10:15 (2967 days ago) @ WB
Bullets. The Accubonds work great at handgun velocities and the 180 grn Accubond would be the first bullet I tried.
for expansion in the 330 Falcon or the 338 Falcon on
Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 10:23 (2967 days ago) @ WB
larger game where you need the expansion, go with the Ballistic Tip. Supposedly it has a lighter jacket and expands ar slower velocities.
As far as the animals are concerned, remember shot placement in paramount. A shot in the ass with the most expensive bullet made and in the most powerful rifle made is still just a shot in the ass. I have taken a semi truck load of large game (1500 to 2000 lb animals) in the last several years with a little 210 grain bullet in 41 caliber and that included a 6 X 6 bull elk and several 2000 lb Bison. In each case they were one shot kills, BUT there were a couple that I either pulled the shot and in one instance my scope was blown and the shot was a foot off where I had aimed, and it turned into a circus. I ended up shooting the animal 5 times and then drowning him. But shot placement is the key. Without it you might as well stay home. Both the 330 Falcon (8mm) and the 338 Falcon will do the job with the right shot placement.
That's what I was thinking too.
Tim Owsley
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Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 09:43 (2967 days ago) @ Huey
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