Special "Super Effective" Bullets

Jim Taylor
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 07:15 (2965 days ago)

Every so often some ammo companies come out with a "new" super-duper amazing bullet that will be THE ultimate ... either for self defense or hunting or stopping the Zombie Apocalypse. They make a big splash in the gun media ... sometimes in the regular brain-dead media ... and then disappear.

Years ago ... back in the last century ... I was doing a little writing for Harris Publications thanks to the help of Hal Swiggett. Ammo companies sent me stuff to test from time to time. One day I received The Latest And Greatest in self-defense ammo. It was in .357 Magnum. Velocity from my 4" Ruger was 1600 fps!

I shot some at targets and found them to hit very low. Of course my sights were set for standard loads. I pulled a couple rounds apart and found the following:

Bullet was a copper tube weighing 65 grains
It had a plastic base wad that increased the projectile weight to just over 71 grains
Powder charge was 6.6 grains of a shiny flake powder that looked like 231

The hollow tube did not impress me. But I took it out and shot several animals with it. None of the animals I shot showed any initial reaction to being hit through the lung/heart region. You could not see the bullet wound unless you got up very close and examined the critter. At ranges under 10 yards the base wad made a larger entrance wound.

The company was promoting this as the Ultimate Self Defense round.

I called them and asked them if they had shot anything that was living and breathing at the time. They said no they had not. I explained what I had done and told them they needed to test this some more as they were likely to get some good guys hurt if they didn't.

I never heard back from them and they removed me from their mailing list. I was not bothered by that. As far as I know they dropped the project.

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Were those the PMC tubular rounds? I recall...

Stuart in GA
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 08:05 (2965 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

...reading about those back in the day. Maybe called "Ultramag" or something like that?

The late 80's were covered with specialty ammunition. Geco's BAT, Personal Protection Systems, Glaser Safety Slugs, and probably some others.

ammo

james
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 13:01 (2964 days ago) @ Stuart in GA

Bought a box of those long time ago...shot a few at the range..... They may still be on one of the shelves here

Don't forget MagSafe.

Dave H.
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 14:48 (2964 days ago) @ Stuart in GA

I still see them at gun shows. Weird little shot-shell type loads.

Always tried and true is best.

SPB
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 10:02 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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I have a box of those, Bought them in the early 90's

Dan marchel
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 10:33 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

in El Paso.

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Charles
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 11:02 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

How do I join forum?

you just did

Jim Taylor
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 11:22 (2964 days ago) @ Charles

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jim is right. Our forum is unique in that there

Gary Reeder
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 14:33 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

are no special qualifying, no registration, no signing in, none of that. Just get on here like you did and post a question or answer one.

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Kantos Krieg
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Saturday, July 28, 2018, 05:45 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

went something like this, " the bullet with the hole is better than the whole bullet" Seen often in Guns & Ammo and others as I recall

Reminds me of PMC Starfire loads

Dave H.
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 14:47 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Guys here in South Alabama who used thutty-thuttys to hunt deer swore it was loaded with pixie semen and would blow a hole in a deer large enough to drive their trucks thru. Never did figure out why you had to blow such a hole in a deer.....anyway, that round didn't seem to last. Nor did their pistol ammo. Fads.

Odd stuff for sure. I have a box of Bingham Exploders in

Drdougrx
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Friday, July 27, 2018, 15:18 (2964 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

9mm and 380. Worked in a gun shop so I got them for cheap...a buck a round in 1982... too precious to shoot!!

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