I'm a sucker for old Colts, BIG and Little ones

WB
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Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 09:39 (2938 days ago)

I struggle with it. I usually pass more reasonable "middle" of the road stuff that is typically more desirable by rational folks. But I sure have fun along the way.

Taffin had an article a while back about the underappreciated little revolvers that are a real treasure to own. There are many out there. They have practical value if it is arguably not "tactical" by modern standards. I'm not of the ilk to go around wearing all black and hoping to get into a situation where I can "shoot" a bad guy. However I do exercise my rights to be armed and self protected. These little ancient gems will get it done.

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I did't really mean to buy this, bid the minimum and by golly snared it. Not to be confused with the "Police Positive Special" or plain P.P. this is a smaller version of the Police Positive, smaller than a S&W J-frame, teeny with a 2.5" barrel. It is 6-shot and despite ".32 Colt Police Ctg." is simply a .32 S&W Long chamber. Colt had ammo made under their own monkier with a flat nose bullet (probably minuscule superior, maybe) so they didn't have to mark "S&W" on their gun barrels.

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I've had an older model that had a knife blade front sight and teeny U-notch rear that was totally invisible. However accuracy was great when I endured the struggle. This later 1934 vintage has a more pronounced square front sight and square notch rear groove. Sadly it has the typical chipped bottom grips (reproductions are available) and has evidence of rust frosting in several places. I knew the value would not be impaired if I planned to have Gary refinish it eventually. He sould be able to make quick work of this little restro project. No regrets, it will be a fun project and still valid for CCW. I can do some special XTP .32 S&W Long ammo and in the past simply dropped some Hydro-Shok Federa. 32 ACP in them in a pinch.

Simple mind, simple pleasure.

P.S. Did they ever make a grip adapters for these teeny "Pocket" Positives?

Nice grab!

Derek
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Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 10:36 (2938 days ago) @ WB

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Nice! Maybe Pachmayer made adapters? Would a

ChrisG
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Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 13:05 (2938 days ago) @ WB

Detective Special adapter work. Colt DA's get confusing to me!

I know, me too. "I", "J", "E" Colt frames. S&W I get.

WB
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Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 14:07 (2938 days ago) @ ChrisG

Besides the Colt frame sizes each one had about three different gripframe designs, long, sort, round, flat...

The Police Positive was the same frame size but a totally different grip frame on the chassis from the Pocket Positive, much longer grip and flat bottomed. The Detective Special is actually the "Police Positive Special (longer frame window and cylinder for the .38 Special) with a shorter flat bottom grip frame. I believe a "D" frame in Colt nomenclature.

I can barely order the correct grips after much research.

The original Police Positive and Pocket Positives were found in .32 Colt (a heeled bullet centerfire round) that has perfectly smooth cylinder chambers straight through. I have reamed out a cylinder or two of .32 Colt to .32 S&W for economy of use. It did few harm and made ammo much easier to find. Too easy to plunk common .32 ACP in there afterward, just point skyward to eject so the brass does not hang under the star. The 32 New Police is simply the .32 S&W. Ditto the .38 Colt New Police and .38 S&W (not the Special).

It is confusing but I guess that's part of the allure. If it was easy anyone could do it.

A useful link to a article of some explanation on frame sizes.
http://www.coltfever.com/Colt_Model_Guide.html

The Banker Specials looked a lot like this but

WB
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Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 14:12 (2938 days ago) @ WB

I think they have a longer funky grip. My dad always wanted a Colt .22 Banker's Special, as that was his vocation. He receded that desire when he saw the prices! It's still on my list, even a .38 S&W.

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