Several have asked me about the 50-70 G2 Carbine...

Huey
[subject]
Saturday, August 25, 2018, 13:27 (2935 days ago)

I look forward to this gun and will likely add a pistol length too.

The 50-70 brass is readily available from Starline. Dies are available from several manufacturers.

The old round is like many forgotten favorites and considered obsolete in the Short Mag Era.

This is a mistake. The gun loaded to under 20,000 psi matches or exceeds 500 Linebaugh revolver ballistics. Think the 500 Linebaugh won't kill big game?

I've attached some published loading data for reference.

[image]

we started building 50-70 Contender barrels in 1987

Gary Reeder
[subject]
Saturday, August 25, 2018, 13:52 (2935 days ago) @ Huey

and have built quite a few. For a while the orders slacked off because brass wasn't available. Loaded reasonably even in the old Contender it does well. This is Joel Sherman with a Spanish goat taken with one of our 50-70 barrels at Tellico junction back around 1990.
[image]

I'll definitely hit you up for a 14" G2 Barrel...

Huey
[subject]
Saturday, August 25, 2018, 14:21 (2935 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Same sights as we discussed. V on the rear and bead or fiber optic front. Just have to let the wallet recoup.

Do you have a picture of the cartridge?

Andy S
[subject]
Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:16 (2935 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

- No text -

50-70 cartridge

Gary Reeder
[subject]
Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:24 (2935 days ago) @ Andy S

Thank you, never saw one before,?

Andy S
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 08:34 (2934 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

- No text -

Can this be chambered in a stretch frame revolver?

Andy S
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 08:36 (2934 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

- No text -

50-70 revolver

AlanT
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 08:57 (2934 days ago) @ Andy S

Century Mfg (one of the companies that used to build .45-70 revolvers) had a .50-70 Government model. The Model 500.

Magnum Research makes the BFR in 45-70

Howard
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 09:10 (2934 days ago) @ AlanT

maybe Gary could rebarrel and rechamber.

I Believe the rim would be too big...

Huey
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 09:25 (2934 days ago) @ Howard

This cartridge works great in the G2 or Encore. It should probably be left for that use.

.500 or .510 cal?

jfo4
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 09:44 (2934 days ago) @ Huey

Which bullets does it use?

~J.O.

.510"...

Huey
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 09:44 (2934 days ago) @ jfo4

- No text -

the rim is too wide for a revolver The Century

Gary Reeder
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 12:52 (2934 days ago) @ Huey

Arms revolver was a monster of a gun, probably weighed in the neighborhood of 7 lbs. A neat showpiece but very inefficient. The 45-70 and 50-70 to be loaded properly have to be loaded with rifle powder and in a revolver, maybe half the powder burns in the barrel, the rest in a bright flash at the muzzle. The cylinder in this gun holds a 45-70.
[image]

With some powders it's great...

Huey
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 13:45 (2934 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

But, agree completely with factory stuff. I've found powders like 4759 work great. About the same burning rate as H110 and 4227. Just bulky to fill the case and not position sensitive.

Definitely not the revolver for everyone.

It must shake your fillings

Grover Sr
[subject]
Saturday, August 25, 2018, 20:19 (2935 days ago) @ Huey

With the recoil in a Contender carbine!

Other than the novelty I personally see no

WB
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 06:54 (2934 days ago) @ Grover Sr

benefit from doing a G2 or Contender in such a Moose hammer. The Encore is only 1.5 lbs. heavier and not only bunches stronger it is much, much, more pleasant to actually shoot. The good old days through rose colored glasses may seem good but man I don't want to go there.

I can flinch bad enough as it is. I've had Encore cannons in .510 GNR, .50 AK, and .500 Maximum. I shudder to think of a light 5 lb. contender rig in one. Those boys back then were sure badder than I am now. Probably no brakes on one of them!

This certainly wont be a novelty. In fact...

Huey
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 07:03 (2934 days ago) @ WB

Very useful as it always has been. Shot at 12" 50-70 for years on an early Contender. Never an issue with it.

The thumbhole stock I have for it will make recoil management much easier. The arm works as a shock absorber of sorts.

People just have an issue seeing beyond their own little world. What they like is great, what others like us useless. Human nature...

I had a factory .45-70 "Hunter" kit.

WB
[subject]
Sunday, August 26, 2018, 17:11 (2934 days ago) @ Huey

It was fine with old BP speed stuff, I figure the .50-70 about the same. Same bullet weights, speeds, about same recoil.

Boy if you hotted it up it would bike you hard. I'm getting too old to enjoy that anymore. Overkill anyway.

Had I a .50/70 Govt. G2 I'd be happy with 350 gr. bullets and Trail Boss loads. Could kill anything on the planet, and has. In fact my .476 GNR Encore that's what I do.

Not given much thought to a Carbine version but I like all those little handy TC carbines.

powered by my little forum