Reeder Custom Guns - the military is looking for a new sub machine gun

to replace the H&K MP-5.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/5851891523001/?intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clips

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The guns were made in a warehouse in Atlanta for a time. I got to shoot the 45acp and the 9mm. My brother got stamped and bought them both. The 9mm was barely manageable and the 45 nearly impossible, even with the front strap. The cycle rate is about 8-900 rounds per minute, so keeping them loaded is a chore and trigger control is very difficult. Aiming is an afterthought, but other than that they're a literal blast to shoot. Ammo can be a problem also.

with a foot long, 2" diameter suppressor. The .45 mags I think held 25 rnds. each. Firing with the suppressor was fine and easy to keep most shots on a 5 gal. bucket at 25-30 yds. You didn't have time to flinch. (my thumbs still throb at the memory of loading those mags - we had 3 to use - they hurt for days. I couldn't even pick my nose!)

It sort of wet "clink", "clink", "clink cli-" out. The sound was mainly a handful of .45 empties all hitting the ground at once. Like you dropped a double handful. Maybe 3 handfuls and that was it, reload.

We didn't shoot it too much without the suppressor as it was too dangerous! I did one mag. Accuracy went all over, good only to spray a room. Get one tiny fingertip in front of that strap and it would have been gone. I envisioned .45 slugs about 6" apart, nose to tail, exiting that thing.

It was shocking that it weighed about 10 lbs. it was a solid brick of steel! But that's why when you had something to hold onto it would be directed pretty well. I heard the .380 version that came later by another company was a true wielding terror.

I find the old UZI one of the very best handling and satisfying SMG I have personally handled, the sample pool being very small.

was a Thompson .45 shooting off the fantail of the ship. The landing party had to qualify on all weapons we were issued once every six months. The M14 in full auto was a hoot.... Couldn't hit shit but the first bullet was always right on.. I got to spend a lot of taxpayer money playing around and ammo was not an issue. We loaded pallets of ammo before deployments and were expected to shoot all of them. That was back in the 60's and 70's when we still had a Navy run by real men instead of the Pussies in charge now. Time outs in boot camp for hurt feelings, what a crock.

Range was about 30 feet ... two tables with 5 bowling pins each.

The Model 97 cleared 5 bowling pins with 4 shots.

MAC10 took 3 magazines to clear his table.

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couple of things in Debbie Does Dallas that got my attention.

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times. It took me that long to realize it was a football movie. I just saw the cheerleaders.

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I have shoot all 3 Mac's 380, 9mm, and 45 acp. Also Thompson smg in 45 acp. Definitely the easiest to control. The military will never go back to it, to expensive. The same July 4 I shoot the mac's a lady takes a 9mm and empties it. When it runs out of ammo she is shooting straight up. I was RUNNING!

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at the station across from Ft. Campbell, I had several hunting buddies in the 101st. Once one of them called and asked what time I could get out of the station. I had the morning show so i was out of there by noon. he said to meet him at the back gate at Ft. Campbell and we would go shooting. We went to a hanger size Quonset Hut that was stacked full of guns of all types. On one wall was wooden boxes with 6 Ingrams in each box. Then there were boxes and boxes of loaded magazines. The Ingram MAC 10s were all marked Cobray with the snake logo on them. I asked him what they were going to do with them. he said nothing at that time. Our wonderful President Johnson (a pathetic moron) had deemed them too dangerous for collateral damage so they were not allowed to be shipped over. The MAC 10 was a great choice for heavy jungle where you needed a big heavy 45 caliber slug to plow thru the heavy vegetation and hit the bad guys. This was about the time Johnson was proclaiming shotguns were not good for Viet Nam again due to collateral damage. There were hundreds of short barreled shotguns there lined up against one wall about 100 yards long. There were Winchester Model 12s, Remington 870s, Ithaca Model 37s and some Stevens. I don't remember the model number, along with one or two real short barrel Remington Model 1100s and maybe some others I don't remember right now. If memory serves me the pumps were also a lot shorter than the normal 18", maybe 14" if I remember right. But some neat stuff. I got to shoot thousands of rounds of 45, 223, 9mm and 12 gauge and all free. It was good to have friends with access to that stuff.

Anyway, we didn't get to shoot the MAC 10s as they were on hold for transit to someplace where we couldn't do any collateral damage. But we did shoot a lot of other guns, mostly 1911s, M-16s, some shotguns and M-14s. My friend showed me some neat toys that were slated to be shipped to Viet Nam. One was the S&W model 10 with a suppressor attached to it for the tunnel rats. There were other things that I wish I had had a brain them to take pictures of them.Good memories.

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I cannot fathom the possibility of shooting a full auto 5.56 with a 7" barrel, and NO hearing protection. It's like someone swatting you in the face with a wet towel.

But I guess in a real firefight it mostly goes unnoticed. The blow back system for pistol class cartridges was proven long ago, with only 5-6 moving parts it's hard to fault.

and if the decision making goes as it did on the new military handgun, we will see Sig chosen. Lots of things coming out about the choosing of the Sig handgun and how it did not beat 2 other brands and has already had to go back to Sig to fix problems. Probably a lot of money exchanging hands under the table.

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the caliber.

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like a couple guys to hump the ammo, it was a SMG. If it was not the select-fire battle rifle. I have read the same as Woody described myself. But perhaps it's a casual term generally accepted and less technically specific. The BAR is a "machine gun" and it had some support guys? We didn't have anything under that except the Thompson (SMG) and .30 M2 (?) is the latter a SMG?

I'd call any select fire 5.56 or 7.62x39, with 7"-9" barrel a SMG. The full sized battle rifle begins at about 36" overall to me. Perhaps the line is somewhere between the two?

However I'd figure any true pistol caliber MG would fall easily into the SMG category. Then you have the machine pistol... the line between it and the SMG. Many of both have stocks.

and it never mentions a rifle or pistol caliber, just that it is smaller than a machine gun. To me that makes all the sense I need.

(formerly called a SAW) is 5.56.

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than to upgrade the old guns, plus you and I pay for them so why not.

Isn't this yet another PDW / ambush-buster proposal?

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