Black Bear & .357

Tom
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Tuesday, October 30, 2018, 20:28 (2867 days ago)

Would a guy be considered insane to enter bear country, black bear, not grizzly armed with a .357? I've been reading bear gun threads on other forums tonight, OK I am bored I'll admit. Some people say the .357 is good for exactly nothing and it's under powered, some say it's plenty for black bear if it is loaded with 180 gr or larger hard cast loads. I have my opinion, just curious for yours.

My opinion is that for hiking and camping where there are black bears the .357 would be adequate, provided you follow the rules for camping in bear country, keep a clean camp and don't provoke a bear. Chances of getting struck by lightening AND winning the lottery on the same day are probably greater than a bear attacking, but it can happen.

I’ve never been between a moma bear

steve todd
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Tuesday, October 30, 2018, 22:05 (2867 days ago) @ Tom

and her cub, but if i were, i would want something bigger. The bears i have seen have been running full speed for cover, or 400 yards and further.
And i’m far, far, far from an expert, on anything.

I’ve shot 3 using rifles before returning to

Drdougrx
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 05:17 (2867 days ago) @ steve todd

handgun hunting. I did carry a SW MTN gun in 44mag with 300grXTPs while in Maine. The other 2 were in Canada so no handguns. After skinning each and seeing their musculature, I agree, leave the 357 home.

Black bear

Alcorn
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 05:57 (2867 days ago) @ Drdougrx

If you insist on using a 357 Mag, use Swift 180 factory load at 1363fps for 742ft/lbs. Or if you reload use the same bullet with new brass and 13.7gr. H-110 for 1433fps. I have killed 2 black bears. One with 44mag revolver and one with 416 Taylor. I own 3 357's. I would NEVER consider one for bear hunting.

now I am not an expert either, but I have danced with

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, October 30, 2018, 22:43 (2867 days ago) @ Tom

3 bears, all big black bears. The first one I shot 6 times with a 44 Magnum while he was running at the guide and me, the last 3 shots while he was sitting on my chest and chewing on one of the bear dogs that happened to be on top of the guide.
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Bear number 2 was in Washington state on the Columbia River, a big cinnamon bear Colleen shot out of the top of a tall tree with her 338 GNR TC. He landed almost at my feet. I leaned over to get a good look at him and turned to tell Colleen that was a great bear. I turned back around and he was standing almost nose to nose with me. I figured I should either kiss him, dance with him or shoot him. I had my Redhawk in hand loaded with 41 GNR so that helped make the decision. I emptied it into him at maybe 3 feet. Colleen chewed me out for putting 6 more holes in her bear.
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Bear #3 was in Alaska. A big black bear chased a small bear across a small creek onto a sand spit where I was standing taking a leak. The bear obviously didn't like me urinating in his living room so he decided to have a short talk with me. I hit him at maybe 2 feet with the 510 GNR. He rolled, said a lot of nasty things about my Mother and turned to run away. I hit him again as he brushed by me, again at maybe 2 feet. He said a few more foul things about all my ancestry and ran off and I had to go in after him to finish our conversation. At the two shots the bear was close enough to splatter blood all over the front of the scope on my 510 GNR and pretty much cover up the gun with his blood, ruining the nice finish on the gun.No pics of the bear.
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The gist of this diatribe is take the largest caliber you handle well, and leave the 357 home. On a pissed off bear you have to break him down first and then kill him. The 357 might not give you that extra edge.

When I'm not on top of the food chain, bigger guns...

Huey
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 06:39 (2867 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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No wonder WB has nightmares about bear

Steve W
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 08:18 (2867 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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They have been taken with lesser guns BUT

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 05:17 (2867 days ago) @ Tom

they have seriously damaged some who had bigger guns. I would think it prudent to have the best I could carry and be practiced up with it as Gary can tell you.

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