Magnum Research has announced a new cartridge

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 12:58 (2514 days ago)

Magnum Research 429 DE Pistol Cartridge


(Pillager, MN) - "Magnum Research, Inc, maker of the world renowned Desert Eagle pistol and leader in innovative firearms design and manufacturing, is proud to announce the launch of the new 429 DE pistol cartridge.

Magnum Research has developed a new, fast, powerful .44 caliber pistol cartridge. The 429 DE (Desert Eagle) was designed to enhance the famous and powerful Desert Eagle platform. This cartridge has a 25% velocity increase and 45% energy increase over a 44 Mag (240 -- 6" barrel). It has a velocity of 1600 FPS with 240 grain bullets and 1750 FPS with 210 grain bullets.

The 429 DE features 30 degree shoulder headspaces and a neck long enough to properly hold and crimp a 240 grain bullet without set back under recoil. Based on the famous 50 AE cartridge, the 429 DE is made with Starline brass, and loaded by HSM in Montana with Sierra bullets.

"This new cartridge was engineered and designed specifically for the Desert Eagle Pistol, keeping in mind that the DEP is known world wide for its awesome firepower and performance. The 429 DE propels that history into the future," says Jim Tertin, Design and R&D for Magnum Research.

The 429 DE rounds are available in boxes of twenty and distributed by Magnum Research, Inc. Available options include: 240 grain soft point (DEP429DE240JSP) MSRP of $42, and 210 grain hollow point (DEP429DE210JHP) MSRP of $42.

To accompany the 429 DE cartridge, Magnum Research will soon be releasing a lineup of 429 DE 6-inch barrels in a variety of finishes. The 429 DE barrels will be compatible with any MK19 USA or Israel Desert Eagle Pistol with a wide .830” rail on top of the barrel and uses a 50AE magazine and bolt. More information on these barrels will be announced soon.

Note: The 429 DE is similar to, but NOT INTERCHANGABLE with, the obsolete 440 COR BON, but properly engineered with a sharp 30-degree shoulder, consistent headspace and reliable function and velocity."


Now they even mention it is similar to the old 440 Cor Bon that flopped in the Desert Eagle and in the Auto Mag 5 back in '98 or so. We also just happened to have our version of the cartridge we developed in '95 as the 440 GNR. It also flopped as it backed out in a revolver.
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For someone that does not reload this should be nice for them because they are not up on ballistics but I just think it is sort of funny how they have a "brand new cartridge" coming out that for all practical purposes is the same as the 440 Cor Bon and our earlier 440 GNR. And the specs they mention are not anything to brag about. A 240 grain bullet at 1600 is mediocre at best. Our 429 GNR will put a 240 grain bullet out at 1800 fps and will put a 300 grain bullet out at almost 1700 fps. So I am not sure what they have to offer other than a 4 lb pistol that jams when it gets dirty unless it is in the movies where a scantily clad little blonde carries 2 of them and they never jam and never run out of ammo.

The latest greatest newest don't excite me

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:10 (2514 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I guess I am just getting to be an old fart.

Maybe

Shaun
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:13 (2514 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Well, you won’t get a broken ejector rod on that gun... so, maybe you should give it a chance? Maybe?

Probably need 2 for concealed carry.

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:17 (2514 days ago) @ Shaun

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You need 2 DEs so you dont walk in circles.

Amede
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:39 (2514 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Desert Eagle

okie
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 15:20 (2514 days ago) @ Amede

I remember when the .440 CorBon came out and it seems like I remember they had a lot of problems with it and it didn't last long so this new deal might be better who knows. New cartridges seem to spark sales sometimes and with all the hoop la over the 10mm being the ultimate handgun hunting round it might sell. I kinda doubt it but I thought the same thing about the 10mm, I never seen what it would do that a .41 wouldn't do better other than fit in an auto. I've owned a .44 and a .50 Eagle and can honestly say I didn't like either one. They both jammed and I couldn't hit anything with them. I do really like the .50AE round and I have a Freedom Arms in it and a BFR. I know if you reload for it it can be a serious pain but I just shoot factory ammo and have been really happy with what it does.

I hunted with a 44 DE for 2 years.

Amede
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 15:49 (2514 days ago) @ okie

Didnt have an issue with function or accuracy. The 2 issues I did have with it were the weight and the noise. And by noise I mean that when I brought back the hammer or took it off of safe, there was a noticeably loud 'click'. 2 times it cost me the opportunity to shoot a buck. I was hunting in some close timber(pistol ranges) and when it came time to get handy, that little noise gave me up. I find that I can take a 1911 or an LAR or a revolver and quietly get it ready.

Pants

Clint H
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 16:25 (2514 days ago) @ Amede

Back a few years ago i had a desert eagle had a hard keeping my pants on
I Had to wear bib overalls when a carried it

.429

okie
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 16:33 (2514 days ago) @ Clint H

Wonder if there going to chamber a BFR in it?

Grizzly vs Desert Eagle

Alcorn
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 19:23 (2513 days ago) @ okie

I have owned both. I know the grizzly is out of production and LAR is out of business. Find a LAR Grizzly, it is a superior weapon, with a superior cartridge, 45 Win. Mag. There is really no comparison, the Grizzly is more accurate, lighter, more reliable, and has better sights.

You got that right. After the DE I picked up an LAR.

Amede
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 20:23 (2513 days ago) @ Alcorn

I found it more foregiving on loads, just as accurate and easier to carry. It was a hard chrome model with the 6.5" barrel. It really liked the lyman 454647 292 gr TC mold for heavy loads and the 250 XTP for mid. I never did find a load I was totally happy with in the Speer 260gr. Had it for about 15 years until my brother talked me out of it.

Shaun, you are obviously a Desert Eagle fan, so

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:34 (2514 days ago) @ Shaun

we won't say anything bad about them so as not to offend you.

and by the way Shaun, I don't think I have ever seen a

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:39 (2514 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

broken ejector rod. But you are obviously a lot smarter and more experienced than I am so maybe there are some out there.

I think he was referencing my earlier post below.

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:40 (2514 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Jim is right

Shaun
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 14:45 (2514 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Jim is right.

Not a fan, never even held one. Closest I have ever come to a Desert Eagle was contemplating a 41 magazine for a speed loader for a single action.

Sorry, for if it came across as snarky. Was poking fun of Jim’s obsession with single actions. His fault I have one too.

Shaun, no problem. Never sweat the small stuff

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 16:05 (2514 days ago) @ Shaun

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Hmmm, my next build is srill gonna be a 429 GNR/44 Mag dual

Grover Sr
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 15:51 (2514 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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With the 41 GNR you don't need another stinking cartridge

Harry
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Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 18:22 (2513 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

The game killed with the 41 GNR lined up head to tail would circle the earth. Any other cartridge has a lot of catching up to and it won't happen in my life time.

Turkey's tell the deer to get off my lawn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwM49bF88GM

Turkeys dusting their feathers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2osoy10z5Ks

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