Alaska I shot a bear at kissing distance with my 510 GNR and it rolled him but he got up at my feet and I hit him again. He then ran off into the brush and I had to go dance with him. George Faerber is the best Alaskan bear guide I know of and he has prohibited the real big heavy bullets in his bear camps. He says the just push a big column of air ahead of them thru the body and that air pushed the vitals aside, not doing any damage. I have to agree with him as I was using a 440 grain hard cast bullet that day in my 510 GNR. I saw 2 bear hit in the right spot on that hunt with that same 440 grain bullet and they both ran off.
So even though the 510 GNR is one of my babies, I would leave it home and take my 429 GNR. The 44 bullet is a lot lighter, and faster and destroys anything it touches on it's way thru the bear. I can't think of anything I have shot with the 429 GNR, or the 410 GNR for that matter, that didn't go down immediately. I took an African Savannah buffalo with the 410 GNR, one shot with a 250 grain hard cast gas check bullet. He ran 30 yards and fell over.
It is all in bullet placement, but on those occasions when you really don't have the time to pick that perfect spot for the bullet, a lighter weight fast bullet imparts a lot of hydra static shock which effects the animals nervous system and puts him into shock immediately.I watched as Colleen shot a Dall sheep that was running downhill off to one side of her. She was using the 41 GNR in a single action. She didn't quite lead him enough and him square in the ham. She was using the Sierra 170 grain bullet at close to 2000 fps. At the hit the sheep spun around, laid his ears back like he was going to run uphill, started shaking all over, went into a heavy tremor and ran downhill right toward Colleen. He ran backwards for maybe 20 feet, then lost it and rolled end over end and landed within 5 feet of her, almost at her feet. I was maybe 10 feet behind her and when I walked up there the sheep was dead. And all from a hip shot. But the fast bullet did so much shock on the animal's system that it shut him down.
So if I had the choice of 2 guns, I would have either my 429 GNR, or 410 GNR and a 22 Magnum semi auto or revolver with a scope on it.
This sounds totally opposite to what a lot of so called experts would recommend but these guns have worked for me.
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Happy New Year and a discussion...
- John W, 2019-01-01, 06:25
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I have carried both a 44 mag loaded
- Larry Fry, 2019-01-01, 13:50
- Hell Larry, I have published 2 handgun hunting books - Gary Reeder, 2019-01-01, 21:39
- Back country bear country handgun - David R, 2019-01-01, 13:20
- Alaska Revolver - jfo4, 2019-01-01, 11:32
- The biggest you can handle as second nature - Blake, 2019-01-01, 09:47
- 5 1/2" Mastadon in 475L or 510gnr (nm) - Steve, 2019-01-01, 08:52
- Alaska Gun - AZShaun, 2019-01-01, 08:42
- Ruger SRH in 455GNR - Larryh, 2019-01-01, 07:07
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Alaska Guns
- Alcorn, 2019-01-01, 07:03
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Just bear protection, a SRH Alaskan in 480 Ruger loaded hot,
- Woody, 2019-01-01, 11:23
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Been there.
- WB, 2019-01-01, 11:40
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i live in Alaska..don't forget a good 22, I
- Dan marchel, 2019-01-01, 11:51
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I have to agree with a few of you on here. On my last
- Gary Reeder, 2019-01-01, 12:16
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one addition to this. If you had the time and could put
- Gary Reeder, 2019-01-01, 12:41
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What brand of silhouette bullets For the 410GNR?
- Kyle, 2019-01-01, 23:18
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Sierra or Hornady as they are pretty much the same
- Gary Reeder, 2019-01-02, 11:02
- here is the Hornady Silhouette bullet - Gary Reeder, 2019-01-02, 21:35
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Sierra or Hornady as they are pretty much the same
- Gary Reeder, 2019-01-02, 11:02
- My Choice - Tom, 2019-01-01, 20:35
- Ultimate big bear Repeater - Alcorn, 2019-01-01, 16:02
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What brand of silhouette bullets For the 410GNR?
- Kyle, 2019-01-01, 23:18
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one addition to this. If you had the time and could put
- Gary Reeder, 2019-01-01, 12:41
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I have to agree with a few of you on here. On my last
- Gary Reeder, 2019-01-01, 12:16
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i live in Alaska..don't forget a good 22, I
- Dan marchel, 2019-01-01, 11:51
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Been there.
- WB, 2019-01-01, 11:40
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Just bear protection, a SRH Alaskan in 480 Ruger loaded hot,
- Woody, 2019-01-01, 11:23
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I have carried both a 44 mag loaded
- Larry Fry, 2019-01-01, 13:50