on my soap box for a moment

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 17:46 (2798 days ago)

Just before Christmas a lady came into our gun shop and I happened to be over there behind the counter rather than at our machine shop slaving away over a custom gun. She pulled out a list of gifts to buy for her husband. She asked me if we had a Modern Sporting Rifle. I said no, but we had several AR-15s. Confused, she just stared at me until I tried to explain that they were the same thing, that Modern Sporting Rifle was just a term that cowards use to refer to an AR-15. She finally left, confused and probably went ahead and bought him a bow tie or some fur lined underwear that he would cherish until he could find some other poor soul to give them to.

That has bothered me ever since. Are we so afraid of the anti gunners that we have to make up a name for the most popular rifle in the United States, if not the world? Are we so afraid the anti gunners will see that we have and use AR-15s? If we start making up names so they won’t see that we have and use AR-15s, then the war is over. We have lost. We are running afraid of calling a spade a spade. And I fault the gun magazines for much of this. They constantly refer to the AR-15 as a Modern Sporting Rifle, or MSR. Why not show pictures of us hunting and taking game with the AR-15 and AR-10? Why not show us teaching our young people to shoot an AR-15? Why not push it as the perfect home defense weapon on earth? Why not show us shooting in competition with the AR-15? No, instead we cower behind words. We are afraid to call it an AR-15. Instead we make up words that don’t sound so violent as those horrible words, AR-15. If so then we have already lost the war of words with the anti gunners. Are we such cowards that we are afraid we might hurt the feelings of the limp wristed, light in the loafers anti gun crowd who will need counseling if they hear the words AR-15? If so then we might as well hang our heads and give up our guns to Pelosi, Schumer and the rest of the anti gun crowd. I for one refuse to hide my progun feelings behind the words Modern Sporting Rifle. An AR-15 is an AR-15. Nuff said.

A buddy got his deer this year with an “AR-15”. Had an ACOG

SPB
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 18:24 (2798 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

scope that cost more than the rifle. I personally like the AR-10 and AR-15
they aren’t “assault rifles “, just damned fine weapons.

Probably going to get me a 450 bushmaster

Derek
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 19:51 (2798 days ago) @ SPB

Upper for my Ar-15 Lower soon!

Bear creek arsenal has pretty good deals on uppers

Derek
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 19:54 (2798 days ago) @ Derek

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Gary, when you first placed your post

BlackPete
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Monday, January 07, 2019, 06:22 (2798 days ago) @ Derek

I understood you 100%. An AR15 is an AR15. If you recall when you lived in Florida. They changed the name of the Jew Fish to Goliath grouper. Trying to make it politically correct . I sill call it a Jew Fish. Just my two cents. Pete

Orwell 1984. "Doublethink"

Marco
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 18:56 (2798 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

new·speak
/ˈn(y)o͞oˌspēk/Submit
noun
ambiguous euphemistic language used chiefly in political propaganda.

Newspeak is the language of Oceania, a fictional totalitarian state and the setting of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Words are important, very important.....

Himmler, control speech etc.

SPB
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 19:55 (2798 days ago) @ Marco

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Sometimes you have to ease into the situation

Harry
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 19:02 (2798 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I have seen similar situations. Sometimes it is best to just display a few rifles and then let them ask questions. Also give some advantages and disadvantages of each one like what type of game it is used to hunt, etc.

Then there are the situations like I need a muzzle loader. OK which one? Then they get into you need a bag, powder horn, sling, and on and on. The person sees nothing but addition dollars which turns him off and out the door he goes without a purchase.

Harry, your post has NOTHING to do with what I wrote.

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 22:41 (2798 days ago) @ Harry

My thoughts were about having the balls to call an AR an AR, nothing to do with black powder or deciding what gun to use on a hunt.

AR OR NOT-ARS?

JT
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Sunday, January 06, 2019, 21:53 (2798 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

SEE AH MAR/APR 2019 PAGE 36--TIGER McKEE CALLS AN AR, ARE YOUR READY FOR THIS, AN AR.

I guess I didn't make myself clear when I posted that above

Gary Reeder
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Monday, January 07, 2019, 00:01 (2798 days ago) @ JT

It seems John Taffin was the only one that understood. My post had nothing to do with 1984, with which AR to hunt with or any of that. It was simply that there is a trend in this country to avoid calling an AR-15 an AR-15, that we are too cowardly to stand up for what we believe and are too afraid that we are going to get the anti gunners mad at us. So we grovel at their feet and are too afraid to call a spade a spade. That it is time to stand up and tell the anti gunners to simply fuck off. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

Kind of like th trend with hunting.

John W
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Monday, January 07, 2019, 04:03 (2798 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

For a while people who hunted made the comment ," I harvested a deer last weekend" rather than " I hunted and shot a deer last weekend."

You are right. We cannot back down and we need to promote all of the shooting sports in a positive light because the mouthpieces of the far left known as the major media outlets are definitely painting a negative picture.

I got it! My AR-15 is still my AR-15. Even in Commifornia!

Larryh
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Monday, January 07, 2019, 06:54 (2798 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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