Pondering the 40 S&W and 10mm Trail Gun ballistics...

Huey
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 17:02 (2773 days ago)

My results were very similar to WB's. The 40 S&W is much more useful than given credit for. As WB mentioned, data is usually given in a 4" and the 10mm in a 5".

My ballistic results exceeded the 357 Magnum in the same length barrel. That's a lot of power in a compact package. The 10mm offers even more.

Wonder what one would weigh built with an aluminum ERH and Gripframe? Maybe a 5" barrel to boot. Adding cylinder length would give an advantage over the auto's ballistics.

all it takes is $$

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 17:05 (2773 days ago) @ Huey

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Wouldn't shortening the cylinder work better?

Leadhound
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 17:40 (2773 days ago) @ Huey

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I don't see how it could...

Huey
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 17:48 (2773 days ago) @ Leadhound

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In my experience bullets fitting throats properly..

Huey
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 18:13 (2773 days ago) @ Huey

And transition into the barrel make the difference. I've shot some 45 Convertible guns where the ACP cylinder out shot the Long Colt cylinder.

I've errored in a couple of my Trail Gun builds. Not adding logical cylinders and throats not being specified for my intentions.

Have two going back to Gary for alterations. No harm though, It's all about learning. Gary has gone into largely uncharted territory on some of these builds.

I've seen several 41 Specials built on the Old Model Single Six. But, for me, the 40 S&W and 10mm are far better choices. The bullet selection is immense and they expand at Trail Gun velocities. Dual cylinder guns can be made to double ammo possibilities. Not even to mention they can easily be built on New Model Frames...

That was my concern the amount of free travel until contact.

Leadhound
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 18:17 (2773 days ago) @ Huey

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Saw one at LGS

Paul
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 18:35 (2773 days ago) @ Huey

yesterday. A Ruger that is. Did they do a run of them? I didn't handle it though. Think it had a 5 inch barrel

They just made a run of 40/10mm Blackhawks...

Huey
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 18:43 (2773 days ago) @ Paul

With 4.62" and 6.5" barrels. All stainless with the worst fitting grips on Earth.

The long cylinder throat acts like a Taylor throat

WB
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Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 19:51 (2773 days ago) @ Huey

aligning the bullet before it gets to the rifling. My theory. That's why my 9mm cylinder in the BH does so well?!

In .40 a 155 gr. can do near 1400 fps in my little 6". The 180 seated long to 10mm 1.25" or more should do well over 1300 fps. That's close to a 4" .41 Magnum. I know cast bullets will add 50-100 fps at the same pressure.

I did not commission my Trail gun for that much power but I'm impressed it is available. I plan on sub-sonic 175 gr. SWC plain base Cowboy bullets.

An alloy frame, alloy ejector housing, and 4-3/4" - 5-1/2" barrel gun should be under 32 oz.

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