you chevy fans take a minute or so and watch this

Gary Reeder
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Saturday, February 16, 2019, 21:04 (2756 days ago)

China's CHEVY!!! You really need to watch this

This video shows how GM simply does not have any or much intent on expanding or maintaining
its manufacturing presence in America or Canada but instead they are doing their growth, expansion, etc. in China

This video will open your eyes....Disheartening for sure, but you must watch this.

Remember that GM's largest assembly plants are in Korea.
They are relatively new plants. They didn’t build them in the US

China's Chevy? WOW!! This is truly a "MUST SEE"

BUY A CHEVY .. WHAT A JOKE! OUR BAILOUT MONEY WAS WELL SPENT???
After investing $80 BILLION ($80,000,000,000.00) in GM this is what we get. Just take a couple minutes to watch the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo

Watch the quality of material go down.

John W
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 04:31 (2755 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

It seems that stuff out of China is very hit or miss. Not to mention the loss of economic power for our nation.

Sorry, but I disagree. I've been a chevy fanatic my

Woody
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 11:04 (2755 days ago) @ John W

entire life...owned literally dozens of chevys and nothing else. Right now I have a 2004 Silverado 2500HD, a 2001 Corvette convertible....and a South Korean made 2009 chevy Aveo that I use for work. It's been the best, most reliable car I ever owned and with 227,000 miles on it and all I have replaced on this car was front and rear shocks and a battery....and the normal tires/brakes/oil changes. It never once broke down. I plan on putting at least 50K more miles on it as it still runs very well....and NO rust. Chevy trucks now, after only a few years the box and frame are rusty as hell, unbelievable. I am certainly glad Ford went to aluminum bodies and boxes on their trucks because that is my next new truck this summer. No more rusty chevy nonsense. Yes, this 2009 Aveo was built in a brand new plant that opened in 2007 in S. Korea. The factories and equipment are brand new and state of the art so the only issue then is training the employees on the manufacturing processes and quality control. People in every country on the planet have the same ability to learn. Seems GM has always gone thru periods where they just can't get their shit together..maybe they need to be bought out and restructured like Dodge/Chrysler was. Ford seems to be doing well though. Sure, I hate to see this too...I'm a GM guy at heart but sometimes people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

I just posted it for your knowledge. Believe what you like

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 11:07 (2755 days ago) @ Woody

It really doesn't make any difference to me. I will never buy another GM/Chevy product. Colleen has been looking at a new Suburban, but that is not going to happen now.

their big sign showing the Communist hammer

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 11:19 (2755 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

and sickle on one side and the Cadillac logo on the other side tells the whole story.

Drive an F150 and no thoughts about changing...

Huey
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 11:23 (2755 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Ford didn't want a handout from the taxpayers to do business while GM sold out to Obama.

Our GM Dealer had a gun shop in house and had to move it or loose his dealership. GM jumped right in with the liberal antigunners.

No way is any of my money going to finance. Anyone who can fly in a private Lear Jet to ask for my money to bail his ass out.

This falls right in line with their other actions. Past behavior is still the best predictor of future behavior.

i have never been a Ford guy, or Chevy guy or Dodge guy

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 11:32 (2755 days ago) @ Huey

I just buy what works for me. We have 2 Fords, one Chevy Suburban, one GM truck and Colleen's new Nissan van. There is no such thing as "the best brand". If it was, all the others would be out of business.

I have had several Broncos, 2 Ford Expeditions, and no problems. But our Chevy truck is also a good one as is Colleen's Suburban. The Nissan cargo van is new so no problems with it yet at all. I have never had any problems with any of them but when it comes time to trade up, you can bet it won't be a Chevy.

nobody asked you how many GM cars you have had, or

Charlie Anderson
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 11:23 (2755 days ago) @ Woody

how well they ran. Gary just posted the story of how Chevy/GM has gone to China and in my opinion has gone totally down the drain. I won't own a GM vehicle ever again. You love them so much you can buy the one I pass on.

Where do you draw the line?

Shawn Davis
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 16:13 (2755 days ago) @ Charlie Anderson

Ford made tanks through their German subsidiary during ww2. Chrysler is in a similar boat as GM. These big multi-national corporations will ALWAYS do what's best for them and their shareholders. IBM, GE, etc. The list goes on and on and on.

I wish we could still buy an all-American car/truck but those days are gone forever.

As with all thru history, we can only deal with here and...

Huey
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 18:24 (2755 days ago) @ Shawn Davis

Now. None of us can change history or predict the future with accuracy.

We simply loose our right to complain if we don't spend money to support our own workers.

Revelations tells us the future and God doesn't demand perfection. But, we can do the best we can and not bury our heads in the sabd...

I was responding to the post about quality going down..think

Woody
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Monday, February 18, 2019, 13:56 (2754 days ago) @ Charlie Anderson

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That’s only half of the story. I will never own a GM produc!

Blake
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 12:12 (2755 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Obama bullied the bond holders in to taking pennies on the dollar for the bailout. Many 10s if thousands Americans had their retirement in the bonds because a bond is “safe” GM assets by law should have been sold to protect the bond holders!!!! First time in American history has that happen. It was Obama protecting the unions. GM China should have bailed out GM USA not the American Taxpayers. And the debt should never been forgiven before it was paid off and the bond holders paid back. The hole thing is discussing. It has nothing to do with the product. I don’t care if it is a good or bad car. What was done was criminal. If you buy a GM product you are adding and abetting the Obama administration!

Well said.

SPB
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 13:13 (2755 days ago) @ Blake

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Preach on! I inherited $81k and with my

WB
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 13:44 (2755 days ago) @ Blake

Investment broker promising all would be ok, I finall got $15k. Was thankful to recover that. It was BONDS! Not stocks, supposed to be safe. That’s why it was in there. It was paying my kids education. Now plan B...

Losing my parents money was traumatic

WB
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Monday, February 18, 2019, 08:43 (2754 days ago) @ WB

worse than even it being my hard earned money. Plus I was listening to a paid investment professional from a reputable national company, Morgan Keegan.

He kept telling me don't worry the Govt. won't let them go under. Then "you are too deep to bail now", still falling in value. Finally "Bond holders get paid first, it's the law". Well those corrupt deep state operatives got that fixed in short order. I'm financially wounded, embarrassed, and it's a harsh lesson to face looking at my children. Even though the circumstances validate blame, it was my responsibility.

Scotty, you got cheated, plain and simple. You

SPB
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Monday, February 18, 2019, 08:51 (2754 days ago) @ WB

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Disgusting yes. But

Joe W
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Sunday, February 17, 2019, 14:16 (2755 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

GM sells nearly as many cars in China as they do the USA so manufacturning vehicles there, which may not be imported due to not meeting our regulations, makes economic sense. Seeing them ally themselves with the communists is ugly. Harley Davidson sells heavily there as well. As the Chinese economy grows why not sell there? We can use this logic with many companies but they were not bailed out by our government which is the shame here. I guess it comes down to our government throwing the money at them, Trump would have let them go belly up which would have settled it all together; then China would have had to do it!!!

This is a little dated but interesting. click on the manufactures to see stats.

yes but that is not the main thing here. The fact that they

Gary Reeder
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Monday, February 18, 2019, 10:44 (2754 days ago) @ Joe W

got 80 Billion from Obama to get out of the hole and they used much of it to build a couple of new factories in China is the main rub. And there are nowhere as many Chevy buyers in China as here. Most of the people have just enough to get by, much less buy a car.

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