Squib load!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John W
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 14:17 (2719 days ago)

I went to the range at 12 noon and upon the third shot I heard the distinct click of the hammer on the frame of the TC Contender.

I used a max load of H322 under a 300 grain hollow point with magnum primers. Never had an issue but today I had a squib load which resulted in the bullet stuck in the throat of the 4570 barrel.


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So. I am wondering what happened? Did a chemical cause the problem?

Did water do it ?

Extremes of heat and cold?

I noticed the powder seemed to have the graphite burned off of it. I am not sure what happened but I am definitely culling that batch of reloads to be on the safe side.

Classic too cool primer for the powder.

WB
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 14:38 (2719 days ago) @ John W

I once had to make a guide and drill out most of a jacketed bullet in the bore with an extended bit. Then I was able to pound it out with a solid brass rod. It was a very long 6.5 with a tough Accubond jacket. It was a chore!

Primers

Alcorn
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 16:35 (2719 days ago) @ WB

Federal 210 primers only in a Contender that takes a large rifle primer. J. D. Jones taught me that years ago.

I kinda have to disagree with Alcorn. I have never

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 17:17 (2719 days ago) @ Alcorn

used federal primers and don't remember the last time I had a squib. The problem on the load above was a bad or old primer. In my meager experience H322 needs a magnum primer and a full load. Too light a load and the powder is not near the primer. When you get a squib load and the powder turns yellow and stinks, it is usually a bad primer or a primer that was not hot enough. Way back a hundred years ago I had a few loads like that but they were with a too light load in a 45-70 TC barrel. I went to a hotter load that pretty much filled the case and a magnum primer and never had that problem anymore. I like a lightly compressed load. Air in the case between the powder and bullet can and does cause misfires. You need that powder back against the primer for perfect ignition. Alcorn learned from J.D.Jones, while I learned from Lee Jurras. Both good teachers and both put out good info.

Primers

Alcorn
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 18:50 (2719 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

In 1988 I was having trouble with CCI large rifle primers setting off the powder. J D said change to Federal 210. Have never had trouble lighting the powder with a large rifle prime since.

CCI primers, in my experience, tend to be a harder primer.

Gary Reeder
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 21:09 (2718 days ago) @ Alcorn

I think J.D. was right to tell Alcorn to get away from CCI primers but I also think any other primer, magnum type, would have done as well as Federal. Any gun that has had a light action job, lighter than normal hammer fall, will have a misfire from time to time with CCI primers. We use CCI primers on our proof loads figuring if our action job will set off a CCI then it will set off any primer. I never use CCI primers in my hunting loads just in case.

I will have to correct myself on one comment. I said I never use Federal primers. Actually I do. I like the Federal small pistol Match that I use in my Raptor cartridges.

Primers

Alcorn
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Monday, March 25, 2019, 05:51 (2718 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I was using CCI match. Evan harder than standard.

I've never used anything but Winchester,

Rsim
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Monday, March 25, 2019, 11:04 (2718 days ago) @ Alcorn

most cartridges I handload need the WLRM/WLPM. I have used the WLR primers for 45-70 handloads.

I agree with WB

Sid R
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Sunday, March 24, 2019, 20:35 (2718 days ago) @ WB

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