a little quiz. Tell me about these
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 11:31 (2708 days ago)
North American Arms was before Freedom Arms...
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 11:53 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
They had the little 22 Revolvers and then some 45 Magnum and 454 Revolvers if I remember right. I was in Junior High, so mid to late 70s?
good thing you are not still in Junior High, you would fail
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:13 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
- No text -
Wayne baker and his buddy Dick Casull developed the
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:35 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
mini revolver in 1978 (if I remember my dates correctly) and later on sold the mini revolver design to North American Arms. So Freedom Arms was first. But that is not what the quiz is about.
Outside of early cases with Large Primers, I dont..
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:43 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Understand the quiz...
temper temper. That was the other half of the quiz. The
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:57 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
cases are marked North American Arms and they have the large primer pocket. The quiz had nothing to do with who came first, who's on first or who flung dung.
I got to shoot one of those guns about 1980 or so..
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:09 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
It didn't have adjustable sights, but was like an oversized Vaquero. High Polished stainless steel. It had two cylinders, 454 Casull and 45 Win Mag.
I spoke to the owner a couple years back and he'd lost the 454 cylinder through the years. That's really sad too. Doubt they're common these days.
Think it was cobbled up by someone from parts..
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:11 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
Not sure how gun was marked, been too long. Think the loads were layered with different kinds of powder? Too long ago and I was too young.
good friend Mark Anderson who was manager of
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:28 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
J&G sales back in the late 70s and early 80s was my supplier of Lee's Auto Mags and Howdahs and other exotic guns and he told me in '81 that they had the NAA 450 ordered and would get me the first one they got in. In early '82 I left the gun shop as I was still in radio and moved to Sarasota Florida to manage a radio station on an island off Sarasota and at that time Mark had not got any of them in yet. In '85 I retired from radio and bought a gun shop from a friend in Santa Fe. I talked to Mark in '85 about any special guns for my new shop and he mentioned then that he didn't have any Auto Mags in stock or Howdahs or AMT longslides and he had never received any of the NAA guns. So that is all I know.
It's funny how certain things stick with you...
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:33 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
I know it made such an impression that I got you to high polish my 454 Casull you built me so it would remind me of shooting that gun.
I remember the 45 Win Mag had bullet pull while shooting and I've avoided the round ever since.
Never could understand the lack of adjustable sights?
the info I posted just above yours came from their
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:15 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
production records which said they never sent any out to gun shops until early '84. So really who cares. I didn't post the quiz to get into a dick measuring contest.
Was just researching online and posting what I could find...
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:17 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
- No text -
Here's a picture from a 1978 Gun Book...
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:35 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
the design was in '78. They didn't start building the gun
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:09 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
until late '81 or early 82. The first guns actually made it to gun shops in '84 and there was only around 500 of them made before they dropped them in '87 or '88. So saying they were first is sorta a maybe. Freedom Arms 454 made it to the gun shops in late '83. So theoretically Freedom Arms was first. But again that is not what the quiz was about.
Looks like four pcs. of 454 Casull brass, what do I win?
Rsim
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:16 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
- No text -
you flunked junior High too
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:17 (2708 days ago) @ Rsim
- No text -
Just one year, how'd you know? Damn internet.
Rsim
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:20 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
- No text -
I looked it up, Freedom Arms made the brass
Rsim
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:31 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
but it was stamped NAA, something about Dick Casull was trying to get NAA to work with him...
that is part of the quiz but only half of it
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 12:42 (2708 days ago) @ Rsim
- No text -
EARLY .454 BRASS MADE
JT
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:17 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
FOR NORTH AMERICAN ARMS. FREEDOM ARMS HAD BUSHINGS TO ALLOW THE USE OF SMALL RIFLE PRIMERS. I STILL HAVE SOME SO SET UP.
Ah-hah, learn something new, primer pocket type/size,
Rsim
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:27 (2708 days ago) @ JT
interesting fact about a great cartridge. But still hate quizzes, ever since 1st grade back in 1958-59.
I still save my big batch of NAA 454 brass with the large
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 13:33 (2708 days ago) @ JT
primer pockets. I have thought of using some of them for my 410 GNR or 429 GNR but don't want to waste them as I can't replace them.
Wonder if you could trim 460 S&W brass?
Huey
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 14:01 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
I'd like to have some LP Brass too..
that is what Robert, one of my guys, does
Gary Reeder
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 14:58 (2708 days ago) @ Huey
- No text -
Gary is in good form today. LOL
Sid R
[subject]
Wednesday, April 03, 2019, 14:03 (2708 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
- No text -
![[image]](images/uploaded/201904031831105ca4fbee8a5b8.jpg)
![[image]](images/uploaded/201904031935075ca50aeb39343.jpg)