US military's love/hate relationship w/ combat rifle

Rsim
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 12:02 (2700 days ago)

cartridges.

Stumbled onto an article, within an article, regarding alternate choices in combat rifle chamberings the US military has considered over the last 40-50 years. The next change over 5.56 NATO (223R) was the focus. Alternatives included offerings from 6mm all the way back to 7.62.

The 6x45mm caught my eye, due to the fact that it would seem to be a simple fix: 6mm expansion nipple of the 6x45mm sizing die with one pull on a 5.56 (223R) case makes the change. Go with a 75-87gr. projectile, easily an upgrade and AR compatible using 5.56 brass, with lots of bullet choices. The changeover would be less expensive with an increase in downrange performance in effective range, trajectory and wind drift.

I can see the added expense of 6.5, 6.8 & 7.62, but in my USMC experience carrying the M16/5.56, anything would be an improvement. Never created confidence as a combat/battle weapon, a major topic of conversation among active duty personnel, especially special service types.

I posted on here a week or two ago that the military

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 12:41 (2700 days ago) @ Rsim

was looking at a new rifle and cartridge. The cartridge was a 6.8 caliber (270) but not the 6.8 SPC they tried out a while back. I don't remember the complete story but I will look back and see if I can find it.

here is that post..

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 12:49 (2700 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I like the little 6.8 SPC myself. Small Factory Cartridges..

Huey
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 13:00 (2700 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Choices are pretty slim. I have G2 Barrels in 14" and 23". They are respectable performers when you don't need a cannon.

The 6.5 Grendel would be good

Alcorn
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 16:29 (2700 days ago) @ Huey

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I agree, got 2 ARs and encore in it. Big improvement.

Tom S
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 17:02 (2700 days ago) @ Alcorn

It is an accurate and pleasant shooting cartridge

Yep, remember, was interested in the 6x45mm as a

Rsim
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 12:55 (2700 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

possible less costly alternative, given all the available 5.56 brass. Interesting cartridge.

The 6.8mm will be a vast improvement, sure the infantry types are anxious to get it in their hands, I would be...

Has anyone considered changing the twist rate

jthomson
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Thursday, April 11, 2019, 21:41 (2700 days ago) @ Rsim

on the 5.56 and using a heavier bullet say in the 77 to 90 grain weight. You should still see speed around the 3000 fps mark.

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