Roman's big ugly non-Glock.

WB
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 08:56 (2588 days ago)

(He didn't pay that for it!)

I've created a Monster. He really has become an enthusiast but of course not the same things I like. Not exactly, but in spirit, strange, non-mainstream things. He worked for and spent some considerable change on this big ugly semi-auto 9. It's supposed to be one of the fastest cycling and low recoiling combat handguns around. He is happy and I figure he could spend money on worse things, it will always be worth something, even as spare parts! The operating mechanism is based upon the Bergman design, not your basic, more common barrel tilting design.

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We are experimenting with videos and trying things so I hoped you might enjoy this little slo-mo clip.

The video is interesting as it reminds me that cycling is a combination of the gun working and you holding it in position so it can function. If you limp wrist, the gun and you are both moving at the same time and the energy working the slide can be negated or cancelled out. This gun is big, hefty, and the 9mm is softer recoiling. I has a pretty easy time working. I can hardly wait to try this on the toggle Luger.

https://youtu.be/YyXRtZlgIME

Dang! Thats a big pistol.

Gus S.
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 09:18 (2587 days ago) @ WB

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A bit of trivia, on the second John Wick

WB
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 11:18 (2587 days ago) @ Gus S.

movie the adversary, bald black guy, he carried one. Roman froze the TV on a scene where he was coming down an escalator in a train station, near the end of the movie. Sure enough, plain as day, when frozen for viewing was that big gun. How Roman knew I haven't a clue. It was interesting.

OK, so what is it?

charlie
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 10:06 (2587 days ago) @ WB

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that is the Arsenal Strike One, and i know nothing about it

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 10:13 (2587 days ago) @ charlie

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It was made for the Russians under contract

WB
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 10:18 (2587 days ago) @ charlie

with the Italians at Tanfoglio. "Arsenal Strike One" is what it is called, perhaps translated into King's English. There is one U.S. company with remaining stocks and their own personalizing. Also a somewhat more compact model that is "just big" and not huge. It does hold a lot of cartridges.

It should have been called..Strike Out.

Woody
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 13:03 (2587 days ago) @ WB

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Not my cup of tea but it flat performs, sort of

WB
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 13:35 (2587 days ago) @ Woody

reminds me of the long slide Glock Target guns. Real fun to shoot, make you look good, but pack like a 6" revolver. The cycle rate is class leading and if you know of a lower bore axis I'd love to see it.

I find exotica interesting but I don't buy into all of it. Some I do (on my second Ducati) but it does not always make practical sense.

The slow-mo worked in a pleasing manner. I hope to do more.

It’s his kids gun and thats the future. Gas on it Kid!

Curt
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 16:16 (2587 days ago) @ Woody

Ignore the old farts and burn some gunpowder!

I love that he is into handguns. He could spend money on worse.

You’re a great dad Scotty... I look up to you.

smaller version? GSh-18

Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 13:36 (2587 days ago) @ WB

Ran across this one in one of Stephen Hunter's books (The Third Bullet)

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This is the info I found on it:

The GSh-18 is a 9 mm semi-automatic pistol developed by the KBP Instrument Design Bureau in Tula during the 1990s. The pistol's name is derived from its designers—Gryazev and Shipunov—and its magazine capacity of 18 rounds.

The GSh-18 is a rotating-barrel, short recoil, locked-breech pistol with 10 locking lugs spaced equally around the barrel, the large locking surface area resulting in a strong lockup, making it suitable for high-velocity ammunition loads. The GSh-18 may be employed using standard 9x19mm Parabellum rounds, but was designed for the high velocity, Russian armour-piercing 7N31 9x19mm round. The pistol incorporates a pre-set striker. The slide and working parts are steel, and the weapon has a polymer frame.

Two different designs of grip have been observed. The magazine capacity is 18 rounds, and an additional round may be carried in the chamber. The magazine release is reversible for left-handed shooters and the ejector doubles as a loaded chamber indicator. The magazines are a double stack design common to many modern handguns.

The GSh-18 pistol contains only 17 parts (by comparison, the Glock 17 contains 34 parts)

what a crude pot metal P.O.S. that GSH-18 is

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 16:30 (2587 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

It looks too crude even for Russia.

I showed that to Roman, he about pee'd himself

WB
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 17:13 (2587 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

He knew what it was but thought Gary had one for sale. He was ready to lay out a semester of college to pay for it! lol

I've wanted one of those for a while

Steve W
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 15:27 (2587 days ago) @ WB

May buy one of the new iterations when funds are available. Got big fish to fry right now. Can't wait to see how you both like it.

I'm not impressed, glad Roman

Tom
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 19:07 (2587 days ago) @ WB

likes it though.

The mechanics are interesting to me

WB
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Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 20:07 (2587 days ago) @ Tom

remember this thing is from the mind of a Russian designer, made by Italians. But they copied a very simplistic early design to accomplish their design goals. I'll post a few pics tomorrow.

I'm not really into combat type autos to begin with but as I said I find the mechanics fascinating. Like a V16 4 Turbo Bugatti, goodness I'd never want one, but it's kind of cool.

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