I need information on the 256 GNR

Abin Sur
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 11:06 (2557 days ago)

Questions include:
1: Performance in various barrel lengths/ bullet weights.
2: Compatibility with 256 Win forming dies (I've got a friend who has a set to sell, hence the question ) to reduce the Max brass to .257, or does it come with forming die or dies?

Specifically, I'd be interested in a Contender barrel, between 12-16 inches. I suspect a 13-14" will end up getting the nod for convenience.

Looking for an in between cartridge that would be good for vermin but also work on deer sized game at reasonable hunting distances.

I've tossed this around for some time and I really like the idea of the standard 256 Win mag, but may be a bit lacking in the deer category as the Max based version would have a ballistic edge or a bit heavier bullets.
I've also considered the 6.5 Grendel as it is factory, and I'm a bit of a 6.5 fan. However, being rimless, it just doesn't seem traditional for the Contender. Yes I know that the Contender has always been chambered in rimless cartridges. So the 257 or 6.5 Raptor would be a good choice too.
Lastly would be the 7x30 Waters or 7 GNR, either would fill the bill but be a bit on the bigger side. In my mind would be a bit more of a deer cartridge and not so much for smaller vermin.

Forgive the mental gymnastics I'm going through, That's why I like the idea of the Max based 25. I think it would be equal to a 25-35 Win in velocity, but much more efficient with powder. Light bullets down to 70, and heavies to 120.

So, Gary and fellow misfits. I'd appreciate your data and your preferences for this type of 'niche' cartridge. Like I said a "tweener" cartridge that is easy to shoot and is cheap to feed in powder.

Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

A.S.

Oh boy, my suggestion is on the .30-30 case

WB
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 11:38 (2557 days ago) @ Abin Sur

Gary has several and my favorite do-it-all is the 7mm GNR. It is basically a maxed out shape sided, short necked, 7mm and can also fire factory 7X30 Waters to form. I simply neck once fired .30-30 to 7mm and shoot to form. My 120 gr. bullets run 2400+ fps from a 13" barrel. Likewise I have a .256 Falcon, same concept but in .257 cal. The 87-100 gr. bullets are in the 2600 fps range from the same platform. You cannot fire form .25-35 in it as the shoulders will split. Again, I just neck .30-30 to .25 and shoot.

These two mimic the rifle performance of factory loads in 7X57 and .257 Roberts from a handgun.

Gary has many more but the other cases are more expensive and provide close performance. The .30-30 cased versions are hard to beat. Other caliber options too, to suit anyone.

This was a cull Sika at the Y-O Ranch some time ago. I used the 7mm GNR and 120 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips at 2400 fps. I was using H322 powder and my starting load, so good I just stopped there.

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here is the info out of the reloading manual

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 12:58 (2557 days ago) @ WB

for the 256 GNR..
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As Scotty said above the 7 GNR is more of a do it all cartridge and has been one of our most popular cartridges since day one. Here is the loading data for it from the reloading manual.
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I often think about another caliber based on further necking

Darryl T.
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 12:55 (2557 days ago) @ Abin Sur

Down of the 30-30 but the 7GNR is just so good with 120 grain projectiles that I just can't bring myself to add another smaller caliber. For me the next 30-30 based will probably be a 400GNR.

I'll second that, my next one will be the 400.

JPL
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 15:47 (2557 days ago) @ Darryl T.

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A 20" M94 is a handy arm, these days I can't see sights

WB
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 18:27 (2557 days ago) @ JPL

but with aperture type I can. I have a fantasy of getting GNR to build me a M94 on a pre-64 action in .400 GNR. I'd like more punch than my .375 Win. I know they made a few in .444 but that one never lit my fire. They had cut up receivers and tang safeties, no thank you.

That's how it starts...

THE HANDIEST RIFLE AVAILABLE IS

JT
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 19:58 (2556 days ago) @ WB

A WINCHESTER OR MARLIN 16" TAPPER WITH A RECEIVER SIGHTS.

TRAPPERS

JT
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 20:16 (2556 days ago) @ JT

That last photo is a good one. It shows what

WB
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Friday, August 30, 2019, 09:57 (2556 days ago) @ JT

can be done to about any old Marlin or such. A little custom touch make an old dog new and fun again. The 336 is an arguably superior mechanical device for shooting cartridges than the rose tinted and beloved Winchester. (I SAID ARGUABLY! Sheesh) I know Gary could take any customer's old lever gun and bob it to a pleasant 16.5" and install the customer's choice of aperture sights. Suddenly a safe soldier is brought forth and given new love!

My wonderful Reeder .429 GNR. Often loaned to newbies, hard to miss, effective.
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It is hard to beat a 30-30 based case in the

Blake
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Thursday, August 29, 2019, 14:40 (2557 days ago) @ Abin Sur

Contender/ G2 platform. It is just right case volume and a nice rimed case.
Just pick your favorite caliber and Gary has everything you need. I don’t like a muzzle brake on on a field gun so 12 to 14” make a handy package and all the velocity you need.

thanks to all for your suggestions

Abin Sur
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Saturday, August 31, 2019, 05:57 (2555 days ago) @ Abin Sur

thoughts and opinions. Gave me lots to chew on.

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