Every good wheelgun collection needs a sound Ruger .44 SBH

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 13:46 (2549 days ago)

No need for it to be a stocker. What a pivotal arm. For me it was the rage in the late 70's and about 1980. Shooting steel chickens had been going on a while, rich boys shot S&W, some DW .44's (1984-86?). A bunch of unsung hero's shot the Ruger. A normal guy working at a grocery store could get one too. I paid $175 for mine. Used, it had Pachmayr grips on it that protected the knuckle BUT rubbed the palm but good in recoil. It negated the muzzle flip that absorbed the bite of a hot 240 gr. Back then we looked to lighter, not heavier bullets, to uptick performance. The 200/220 gr. Speer were hot but the 180 gr. Serria was King. With 2400 you could run it to 1700 fps! We shot overripe 25 lb. melons with it that simply vanished, no pieces at all!

Then JD and Kelly, Seyfried, all started writing about this unthinkable hunk of metal 275 gr. SSK TC bullet. Ruger promised a new heavy DA gun (79) but held it back almost 3 yrs. before I saw one (81). S&W came out with a Stainless M29 that I could only dream of, cost equal or more than what I could buy a Colt Python for ($400). I remember it being a difficult choice at the time, but at almost 3X the price of my used Ruger, reality had a way of fixing things.

I've had several but sort of settled on an old trade beater for myself. made in the early 80's. Someone sent it to JD for a package enhancement deal that was mostly cosmetic. About the cost of a whole new gun at $325, you got some matte chrome parts, red ramp front sight and white outline rear, action job, 2-port Mag-na-port and refinish. I didn't like the matte chrome and grew tired of the classic SBH grip. Swapped stls. BH parts on mine and a steel ejector housing. I also sourced an extra cylinder I rechambered to .431-40 Win. and had GNR engrave up nice, in addition to the .44 Spec./.44 Mag stock cyl. I finally have it shooting the way I expect and worthy of the effort. It took some judicious bore honing but it's there now. (Had a tight spot just behind the porting) It can likely take modern 300 gr. and hold together admirable, but both it and you, will pay the eventual price if pressed in to a marathon diet of the heavy stuff. I hear the 180/200 gr. were like lightning bolts on deer. Maybe more is not always better, has it really changed in 40 yrs?

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More Rugers are better.

Sid R
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 13:57 (2549 days ago) @ WB

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Rugers

Alcorn
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 15:15 (2548 days ago) @ Sid R

I own 20 hunting revolvers. Need more Rugers!

I have more than double that...AND need more!!

Woody
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 18:44 (2548 days ago) @ Alcorn

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No Alcorn my broke axe does. Lol

Sid R
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 19:33 (2548 days ago) @ Alcorn

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I came by one a couple years ago by chance...

Huey
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 14:17 (2549 days ago) @ WB

One of the online dealers had the Retro SBH on for $399 delivered. I ordered one with the intent of using it for a base gun. Around home a used Blackhawk cost that by time tax is added.

When the gun arrived, it was one of the best built Rugers I have ever seen. Tolerances are all right on par with the high dollar guns.

I've never been in love with the 44 Magnum, but own a few of them. Haven't shot it much due to lack of interest in it. I just can't bring myself into taking it apart to build something else out of. I'd love to add a 44-40 cylinder to it if it would chamber .431" bullets.

Mr. Taffin has noted it in his writings before

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 16:28 (2548 days ago) @ Huey

and the first guy I ever saw do it was in an old 70's G&A magazine. Might have been that Spankingburger guy, not sure. Anyway taking a standard, easy to come by, .44 SBH cylinder that fits well and rechambering the .44 Mag. cylinder with a .44/40 reamer. I rented a "piloted" reamer what guarantees the concentric detail of the job. Has a throat diameter bushing spinny thing on the end. My .44/40 has .431" cylinder throats and shoots even undersized .427" lead Cowboy loads magnificently. I simply load .430" bullets in my reloads. So I call it a .43-40 Win., which was more correct anyway!

It did have a respectable constriction near the muzzle. It shot horribly. I'd read a bunch about that, but usually it's at the frame threads. I was not sure about what all those guys were harping about. Mine has been ported and I figure someone chucked it in a fixture too tight. I honed it mostly out, it is not completely out. But shoots fantastic now. I was working it and suddenly it started shooting great. The bore looks like chrome now too, so polished. There is something about bores having constrictions, and remedies, but at some point a slight constriction makes no difference. At least toward the muzzle end.

I'm too OCD for that. The case thickness at the neck is...

Huey
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 16:35 (2548 days ago) @ WB

Drastically thicker on the 44 Magnum. My Colt New Frontier has .431" throats and chambers 44-40s loaded with that size bullets. Also have the Uberti Flattop Target 44-40 with .430" throats. I load ammo separately for the best accuracy. The Uberti generally makes one quarter sized hole at 25 yards.

I may load a dummy round for Gary to check out one day. He could easily make an auxiliary cylinder. As long as throats are at least .001" larger than the bore, I'll be happy.

I wish I could find that Spankingburger article

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 16:40 (2548 days ago) @ Huey

That's all they did, hog out the .44 Mag. I don't know why it works but it do. It's mainly the exotica of it. I spent like $100 for the whole goof.

There's a Redhawk 41 Magnum cylinder and crane assembly...

Huey
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 16:42 (2548 days ago) @ WB

On eBay that would be a great rechamber project to make a dual cylinder Double Action.

Ohhhh stop, I have a .429 GNR, .44 S/M combo ....

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:27 (2548 days ago) @ Huey

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Could be 429 GNR, 44 Mag and 44-40. Just Sayin....

Huey
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:36 (2548 days ago) @ WB

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Huey, give me the info on that

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:36 (2548 days ago) @ Huey

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Donr

Huey
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:41 (2548 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Are you going to bring that to the HHC?

Larry Fry
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 14:59 (2548 days ago) @ WB

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Would do good! My .43-40 cyl., the medium speed

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 18:16 (2548 days ago) @ Larry Fry

330 gr. SSK plain base bullets. We got them too cheap, might as well use them. Right? Lol

I loaded a few to see what they would do. Too long to fit an old gun, lightly magnumized .44 WCF. Naked ladies on the cylinder a plus.

Bringing a .44 mag Redhawk with

Larry Fry
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 19:43 (2548 days ago) @ WB

some Garrett 330 grain superhammerheads. Been wanting to see how they would do on a big boar. I keep them around for black bear so I figure if they will take down a big hog they will do the same for 250 pound bear. I carried into alaska in 2003 and thought I was ok for anything. NOPE, fishing on a stream and met a brownie up close and personal, he did not see me and may have only caught a scent as he stood up and sniffed the air then dropped down on all fours and waddled off upstream from me. I knew then that I was under gunned so I had a superblackhawk made into a 510 GNR and tested it on a BIG hog at the next handgun hunt and it was a one shot DRT. After that I always carried the 510 but have still wondered about the Garrett ammo on something like a big hog. I hope to find out in a few weeks. If you want to shoot some I will bring extra ammo.

youngster, you missed all the fun in the early 70s

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 15:24 (2548 days ago) @ WB

when Clint Eastwood said "this is the 44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world. It will blow your head right off" or words to that effect, then everyone had to have the model 29 S&W. At the time it retailed for $125, same as the Python, but the model 29 sold for $400 or more. S&W released a handful every week to keep the demand way beyond the supply, which kept the price triple retail. I was still in radio at the station across from Ft. Campbell and working part time in the afternoons at a gun shop in Clarksville Tennessee. Even at the gun shop they couldn't get enough to keep folks happy and the owner sure wasn't going to let one of his employees have one. I answered an ad in a little community trading post paper (no internet back then), and met the guy and bought my first 8 3/8" model 29 44 magnum for $450, almost 4 times retail. Later on I picked up another one for around $300. I was never really fond of the model 29 that I paid $450 for as it reminded me of what an idiot I was to pay that much for that 44 mag Smith. I paid way too much for the second one but it was the first that really burned my butt.

But back then everybody wanted a 44 Magnum. Before I bought the first S&W 44 I had an old model Super Blackhawk but if I couldn't find a model 29 I decided to settle for a new model Ruger Super. Then I found out they weren't available yet, and that made me do the stupid thing and pay almost 4 times retail for that model 29. But just prior to that when I couldn't find the model 29 or a new model Super, I bought a Blackhawk in 45 Long Colt but got razzed so much by my shooting buddies for having that "weakling" 45 Long Colt, that I eventually sold it.
So the early 70s and on up to around '76 or so were crazy times for gun owners.

I rember an AMT Automag .44 was $500!

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 16:15 (2548 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

and you had to "make" your own ammo! Well' mostly.

I dreamed of owning one. Ditto, later for a grizzly .45. You are about 15 yrs. older than me. That's a lot when you're 16 working at a grocery store. I guess we each have our own age we make our own.

I can sympathize on the inflated prices. I drove 100 miles one way to a guy who offered to sell me his M629 for $400. He told me when I got there he'd changed his mind. He did let me look it over. That didn't help my feelings. I bought a 8" Colt Python! Piss on HIM.

my first Auto Mag was $289 and we could either use

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:21 (2548 days ago) @ WB

CDM ammo out of mexico that was badly under powered. or make our own from 308 brass. I used lake City Match brass as it was perfect. Cut it to 1.298, ream out half an inch of the internal top of the case so the bullet would sit and you have it.
And by the way I am closer to 20 years older than you. I was born in 1945.

A great year! Mine is 1963, not so good.

WB
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:29 (2548 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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I was already in radio when you were born

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, September 05, 2019, 17:33 (2548 days ago) @ WB

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Auto mag is my Grail gun

Shane
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Friday, September 06, 2019, 09:29 (2548 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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