510 GNR powder lil gun?

Silvrjack
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Friday, September 06, 2019, 16:55 (2547 days ago)

One of my favorite powders. Need load for 350 short long

have never used Lil Gun in the 510. Sorry

Gary Reeder
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Friday, September 06, 2019, 17:04 (2547 days ago) @ Silvrjack

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I have tried it a little bit, long ago.

WB
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Friday, September 06, 2019, 17:38 (2547 days ago) @ Silvrjack

Not around my notes. The Hadgdon website lists LilGun data for the .500 Linebaugh (.510 GNR Long) but begins at 410 grs. The problem lies in the fact you cannot go too low a powder density with a slow burner like LilGun (or H110, W296) too much air space can create dangerous hang fires and pressure spikes. ALWAYS use a hot Magnum primer too.

You maybe can use that data as a foundation if you are an experienced loader and understand the characteristics of the ctg. and powder. The .510 GNR has a huge capacity due to the diameter.

https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

I won't use Lil Gun in ANY of my revolvers...

Huey
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Friday, September 06, 2019, 18:03 (2547 days ago) @ WB

I've seen too many forcing cones totally destroyed by it.

How many have you actually “seen”

Curt
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Saturday, September 07, 2019, 02:25 (2547 days ago) @ Huey

No offense meant I just call BS.

Bob Baker makes a comment regarding the use of it in .357 IN AN FA and the internet took it from there. Stretch frame Maxi’s are more impressive in terms of how they met their fate... one gunwriter writes about a top strap and damage done, more impressive due to no internet.

Has not been my experience at all and I actually use it. I’ll take all the Lil gun you all don’t want .

Works lots better if you just don't "look".

WB
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Saturday, September 07, 2019, 07:22 (2547 days ago) @ Curt

Huey is a perfectionist. The kind of guy you WANT designing a boat you are bobbing along in. Baker personally grabbed me by the lapels, at the Y-O event, and warned me not to use LilGun. Too late, I had shot about 3 lbs. of it in just one Ruger Hunter .41 Magnum to my blissful satisfaction. In fact I had sold that gun to Cast Performance Engineering who used it as a test mule to develop their offerings in .41 GNR. Then I bought it back and did the LilGun shooting. The gun has been shot, a bunch.

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Since I can only hold it to about 3" groups at 100 yds. (4X Leupold) or so I can't shoot well enough to say the accuracy has been effected or not. But it does not seem to have changed much for me. I have changed the trigger springs and did a free spin pawl job on it, along with changing the grips. It's plausible that it should have improved but I mainly find it is just easier for me to perform. As for me personally I'm going to continue to use it, makes me feel kind of naughty, a rebel. But I don't think the .510 GNR is a good application for it. I use 4227 as it is very linear and progressive beyond what I can stand in recoil. Lots of proven data too. Why reinvent the wheel if you don't really have too. Even if LilGun went faster at lower pressures I couldn't take it.

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