Tinkering today...

WB
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 10:09 (2528 days ago)

That old obsolete M1910 Winchester in .401 WSL. I can cut cases to make ammo but I always search for something a little more efficient. The 7.62x39 case straightened out has some merit. So it will be a 10x39mm if you will. the bullets are .41 Mag. 210 gr. and it is basically a .414 SuperMag rimless. Just wait till someone discovers it will drop right in a AR platform with a barrel, 7.62x39 bolt, and .350 Legend magazine. I can just see it now, the new 10mm Magnum AR15!

Anyway I digress... The wildly tapered 7.62 needs to be expanded out, then brought back in. After tinkering expanding to .35, .375, and .400 would be about ideal with elliptical expander balls. I only used .375 and .416 (too big). The .416 threw up a bulge that got ironed out FL sizing in a .41 Carbide die. That's the mid point bright spot. The rough expanding got the case mouth out of square just a bit so I cleaned that up.

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The finished product looks like it should work. I changed the charge from H110 to 4227 and used Wolf LR primers this time. I think it is much better for the blow back action. You cannot hot rod it like others. Keeping the chamber closed while pressures peak, the recoil impulse, she's a different animal. Honestly the strong AR platform would do some neat things, getting pretty close to the .444 Marlin, or .429 GNR with 200-250 gr. class bullets.

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I'll take one in a Mini 30 Thank you

Sid R
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 12:12 (2528 days ago) @ WB

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That would be a dandy! Do they make it in .350 yet?

WB
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 16:03 (2528 days ago) @ Sid R

It will cost me about $150 to make a .350 Legend AR from my base platform (barrel and mag). I like the .351 WSL and would enjoy playing with that, me thinks.

The .401 WSL (I mean 10X39mm) would be pretty easy other than the straight case mag adapting.

It would be a super nice truck gun.

Sid R
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Thursday, September 26, 2019, 04:54 (2527 days ago) @ WB

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Here ya go Scotty.

Asa
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 12:14 (2528 days ago) @ WB

Carcano?! Crimes! An actual use for it?!

WB
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 14:55 (2528 days ago) @ Asa

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Was a site dedicated to it

Asa
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 15:14 (2528 days ago) @ WB

appears to have been taken down. Went into a lengthy detail about the whole process. Seemed promising, but a definite roll your own and have to have a reamer and barrel made.

Scotty, you do realize Starline sells PPC Basic Cases?

Huey
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 12:16 (2528 days ago) @ WB

Would save some work...

Hey I did not think of that. I'll look at them.

WB
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 16:06 (2528 days ago) @ Huey

I'm going to shoot these first and then do some checking. Originals are actually semi-rimmed cases. It's sort of like shooting a blow back with no extractor. The extractor does grip it just enough to pull empties. Firing it, it's coming out! Little tip barrel Beretta's don't even have extractors!

I keep looking for one in decent condition that is affordabl

Drdougrx
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 13:42 (2528 days ago) @ WB

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On all of the WSl, look for longitudinal cracks

WB
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 20:52 (2528 days ago) @ Drdougrx

in the forend wood. The .401 in particular. They have a big heavy counter weight under there. It's actually once piece with the bolt. Look it up! I fixed mine and note I have another that has cropped up. I will need to take a dental pick and scratch it into a deep trough and glass it up. Of course I like that kind of stuff, but you probably would not. It can be remedied and a bargain found for the effort. Mashed and broken butt plates, broken toe wood is also a specialty. Fix'em and shoot them.

The magazines are often 1/3 the value of the gun. They can break at the upper rear of the mag. For some reason .351's seem the worst. But their mags are cheaper too.

Thanks Scotty!!

Drdougrx
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Thursday, September 26, 2019, 05:47 (2527 days ago) @ WB

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