a loading manual from 1964 was much thinner
than today's version. I found it among some of my loading manuals. Your main cartridge may not even have been around back in 1964. In this booklet they tell you that first you need good equipment like the Lyman Tong Tool plus your dies. Big bucks here at $16.50 for the reloading tool and the extra dies were $8. Then you had to have a full length hand resizing tool that was an extra $3.50. Then you had to have a scale. This one was real expensive at $19.50. So you were in real deep at $39.50 for the tools and one set of dies. Just the total bill would have given WB (Scott Boggs) heart failure.
Then some of your favorite cartridges today probably weren't around in 1964. In fact some of you may not have been around in 1964, almost 60 years ago. Here are some of the popular cartridges back then...in order in the Lyman reloading manual...** means a cartridge no longer around, except maybe reloaders.
22 Hornet
218 Bee
219 Zipper**
22 Savage**
220 Swift
222
222 Magnum**
243
244**
25-20
25-35**
25 Remington**
256 Win
257 Roberts
250-3000
6.5 Jap**
6.5 M.S.**
6.5 Italian**
264 Win.
6.5 Swedish**
270
280
7 Mauser
7mm Magnum
7.35 Terni**
30-30
30 Remington**
30 M1
308
300 Savage
30-40 Krag
30-06
300 H&H
7.62 Russian (I assume 7.62X54)
303 British
8mm Mauser
7.65 Argentine**
7.7 Jap**
32-20
32-40
32 Special
35 Remington
358 Win.
338 Win.
348 Win
35 Rem
35 Winchester**
358 Win
9mm Mann.**
375 H&H
38-40
38-55
405 Win
44-40
458 Win
45-70 (only one loading, no Marlin or Ruger #1 loading)
45-90 Win.**
The do gooders would be ticked off at us calling the cartridges "6.5 Jap and 7.7 Jap"..how uncouth.
You will notice no ..
17 Hornet
204 Ruger
223
22 Nosler
224 Valkrie
6mm Creedmoor
25-06
6.5 Creedmoor
7-08
300 Black Out
300 WSM (or any of the WSM cartridges)
300 Weatherby Magnum
7.62X39
338 Federal
338 Lapua
444
50 BMG
And in handguns we didn't have...
32 H&R
327 Fed
40 S&W
41 Magnum
454 Casull
460 Magnum
500 S&W
And none of that Reeder guy's 70 cartridges that were just meant for wildcats as they were only listed as wildcat cartridges.
So how did we survive back in 1964 without all these absolutely necessary cartridges? ? And in 2034 how many of these cartridges will still be around. For that matter how many of us will still be here?
Almost like a crap game... through the dice
and hope for the best....Ain`t it a blast looking at those old reload manuals......
I have loading dies going back to 1940 ...
Gave away some of the older ones. John Taffin has the old ones also. Powders listed that we no longer have. Loads that are cursed from existence in today's Manuals. And if you wanted a variety of bullets you had to make them yourself for the most part.
Durn ... I can't type anymore either I meant LOADING MANUALS
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I still use the tools from 80-100 yrs. ago.
My "sets" were likely post WWII however, were I to bet. It's fun to me. Benjamin, my son loads .38/.357 with his kit. I think I have .30-06, .30-30, .45 ACP, .45 Colt tool too. I have been looking for .25-35 and .32-20 die tools for the #310.
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Contemporaries not on the list
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Thursday, December 01, 2022, 16:52 (509 days ago) @ Gary Reeder
Some I load (when I get a chance to get up north and do so) that were around then but not on that list are:
444 Marlin (Designed in 1964, so too new for the manual)
45 Colt
44 Special
38 Special
357 Magnum (although I don't own one)
35 Whelen (Wildcat at that point, so not on the list)
7.62X39 (an odd caliber showing up in Vietnam, but not yet really on the street in the US of A)
The only "modern" cartridges I load for are variations of old timers (32 H&R and 327 Federal - both extended versions of the 32 S&W and 32 SWL).
Most of the modern stuff just doesn't seem interesting, mostly because it tends to be offered in uninteresting alloy/composite platforms instead of blued steel and walnut like God intended. 
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