Maybe it is a silly question but...
John W
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 03:17 (389 days ago)
I seem to recall that one can mail a muzzleloader through the US postal service. I tried to double check with our local post office and it seems that they now consider it to be a modern arm.
I figure that this would be a good site for clarification. I say this because ages ago Dad and I bought a pair of Hawken rifles and they came in the mail.
Thank you for any replies.
My Understanding
steve todd
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 06:14 (389 days ago) @ John W
The gun control act of 1968 considers antique, which is pre 1898, as non-guns. Included are reproductions of muzzle loading and cap and ball pistols. Being non-guns makes them eligible to be shipped USPS.
USPS may have changed their policy, but my guess is that the local employees are not aware of this, and just think all guns are guns. Then again, i may not be aware of a new policy! I also believe that modern firearms can be shipped from one ffl holder to another ffl holder via USPS.
Now I realize that i haven’t answered anything….but the last time i shipped a cap and ball pistol USPS was to a very nice gentleman in Texas, last year. I didn’t tell USPS that it was a “non-gun”, and it was delivered.
Best to check postal regulations, but I do not think
Mike H.
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 06:25 (389 days ago) @ steve todd
they have changed, nor has federal law. HOWEVER, some states treat muzzleloading firearms much as centerfire, with same restrictions in those states.
Federal law says you must declare a firearm when shipping, and federal law says a muzzleloader is NOT a firearm, so best thing (past a restrictive state law) is simply to ship it and say nothing.
That's what I do. Collectively, P.O. employees
WB
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 08:13 (389 days ago) @ Mike H.
can be some of the most ignorant humans you'll ever encounter. However some UPS and Fed-Ex employees see that as a challenge. If you are in the right, and yourself IGNORANT of their internal policies, as they likely are, Rock-On. Federal Law is more important for your compliance over business policy. One lands you in hot water, the other slows a shipment.
The ones who irk me are the wilfully ignorant,
Mike H.
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 08:25 (389 days ago) @ WB
got into a short "discussion" with a local USPS counter lady who declared to another customer that firearms could not be mailed, where I interjected that an unlicensed person could mail a long gun, which she flatly denied, and I then quoted her their own regulation and reference, and her reply was that she knew the regulations and was not going to look it up. Best policy is silence, or maybe a closed mouth gathers no foot, advice I should heed more often.
I would check the actual regs
Tim Pence
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 09:28 (389 days ago) @ WB
Most Post Office employees do not know their regulations. I had an issue with one about shipping long guns via USPS. She said I could not, showed her the regs and she did not change her stance. Took it to another PO and they shipped.
Sounds like you live in my town, except that
Mike H.
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 10:42 (389 days ago) @ Tim Pence
we have only one post office, so, I just keep my mouth shut rather than poking the bear.
I had about a dozen percussion sixguns
JT
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Friday, March 24, 2023, 07:28 (389 days ago) @ John W
Shipped directly to me during 2022 through the post office. I have heard talk of the government wanting to change this but I haven't seen anything yet. When you say check with the local post office go past the counter and talk directly to the postmaster.