I have more than 100 rounds of balloon head 44's and 45's. I finally loaded them all and put them a special ammo box. When some of them started splitting I stopped shooting them.
I also have some original .45 short Colts. These are not Schofield rounds. The cartridge box is deteriorated and I have it put away - at least what's left of it. But it is plainly marked ".45 Colt Government". The headstamp on the cartridges is ".45 Colt" ...BUT these are SHORT .45 Colts! The headstamp is the same as the longer .45 Colts, even down to the "W" on the primers.
These are NOT S&W or Schofield cartridges. The rim diameter is the same as the long .45 Colts, which is smaller than the Schofield rim diameter. These are true .45 Short Colts. The cartridge is listed in Cartridges of the World on page 306 as ".45 Colt - .45 Colt Government".
The case is 1.1" long. The powder charge was black powder, approximately 28 grains. The bullet weighed right at 230 gr. and was lubed with a white chalky-looking substance. I fired one from my Ruger 7 1/2" barreled .45 and it went through the chronograph at near 750 fps.
A few days after chronographing I went out in the hills and called up a nice large coyote and shot him with the .45 short. He ran to within 10 feet of me, responding to the call. I pulled the gun up and shot, hitting him up through the right shoulder and spine, dropping him instantly. The little pointy bullet did not damage the pelt at all. I was able to tan the hide and make a nice looking wall hanging from it.
I wrote this up .. I think it was in Guns & Ammo (but I am not sure anymore .. it could have been one of the other Peterson Publication's magazines) ... somewhere between 1985 and 1989.
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Cleaning Day(s)
- Jim Taylor, 2026-09-30, 06:15
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No significant thickness loss, I take it? (nm)
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-01, 11:12
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No. Not really. I am not gonna shoot these.
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-01, 11:36
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I once had a gunbelt and a handful of the
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-01, 12:10
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I did the same thing back in the 70's and 80's.
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-01, 13:20
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At this distance from the past days,
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-01, 15:07
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Yes, that is true. What I figured is:
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-02, 07:29
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In regards to the ".45 Colt" vs ".45 Long Colt"
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-02, 09:53
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Good points. Growing up it was always 45 Colt.
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-02, 10:21
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I look at the modern push to "Long Colt" as
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-02, 12:03
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I have used "long colt" as far back as I cvan
- Gary Reeder, 2026-10-02, 16:30
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In Cartridges of the World they give all the info
- Gary Reeder, 2026-10-02, 16:42
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Well, out of curiosity, I randomly grabbed my 1971
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-02, 17:02
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You didn't look far enough. There is a
- Gary Reeder, 2026-10-02, 19:13
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Am not arguing that it is a totally new name,
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-03, 06:46
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Always good for a discussion.
- ORG, 2026-10-03, 10:43
- Yep. Folk call it what they want. I like ".45 Old West". (nm) - Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-03, 11:40
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Always good for a discussion.
- ORG, 2026-10-03, 10:43
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Am not arguing that it is a totally new name,
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-03, 06:46
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You didn't look far enough. There is a
- Gary Reeder, 2026-10-02, 19:13
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Well, out of curiosity, I randomly grabbed my 1971
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-02, 17:02
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In Cartridges of the World they give all the info
- Gary Reeder, 2026-10-02, 16:42
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I have used "long colt" as far back as I cvan
- Gary Reeder, 2026-10-02, 16:30
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I look at the modern push to "Long Colt" as
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-02, 12:03
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Good points. Growing up it was always 45 Colt.
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-02, 10:21
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In regards to the ".45 Colt" vs ".45 Long Colt"
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-02, 09:53
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Yes, that is true. What I figured is:
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-02, 07:29
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At this distance from the past days,
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-01, 15:07
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I did the same thing back in the 70's and 80's.
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-01, 13:20
-
I once had a gunbelt and a handful of the
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-01, 12:10
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No. Not really. I am not gonna shoot these.
- Jim Taylor, 2026-10-01, 11:36
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No significant thickness loss, I take it? (nm)
- Jerry Kiln, 2026-10-01, 11:12