I've not been in the military but I figure guns are cleaned and casually looked over and put up for the next swinging Johnson to get issued, over and over again, to the point of failure and retirement.
Metal fatigues with use. Molecules only have so much flex in them. I know of several local Beretta M92's with an easy 10k round count of casual range ball 115 gr. But I bet they had much better maintenance than a low bid Military issue.
The Beretta has obvious design influences from the Walther P-38. Which also had an inherit flaw that cracks the slide and frame at a weak window machined in it. Hurried and improper wartime heat treatment sometimes had a factor too.
I like the 1911 infinitely better too. But for a 9mm I find the Beretta very soft shooting and accurate. Reliable too. For a commercial model and civilian use I think it is probably a very fine choice. My entire family shoots them well. I still have a M92A1 (railed 9mm)and a M96 in .40 Cal. It can't be stressed much more than the frail little Browning HP they brought out in .40 also. I think it will handle my casual shooting just fine.
Point is those surplus guns "could have been" rode hard and put up wet. With the surplus market kind of dried up nowadays you might select your choices wisely. Police or Security force trade in's are usually better.
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Waterboy!
- Tits LaRue, 2020-12-27, 08:14
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Those are great shooters, the mags are a little difficult
- WB, 2020-12-27, 11:43
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Not to discourage but it’s interesting that
- WB, 2020-12-27, 11:55
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The M9 was a poor choice ....
- Jim Taylor, 2020-12-27, 13:23
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To be somewhat fair, they did address and fix the issues ..
- Jim Taylor, 2020-12-27, 13:35
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I think most of the failed guns were well used if not abused
- WB, 2020-12-27, 18:08
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I can't speak for other countries,
- IC, 2020-12-27, 19:48
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I was hoping you'd chime in. Being empathetic
- WB, 2020-12-28, 17:36
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I'm not standing up for the Beretta,
- IC, 2020-12-28, 18:46
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Very interesting. I wondered how it was organized.
- WB, 2020-12-28, 21:32
- I don't have any Berettas. - IC, 2020-12-28, 22:10
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Very interesting. I wondered how it was organized.
- WB, 2020-12-28, 21:32
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I'm not standing up for the Beretta,
- IC, 2020-12-28, 18:46
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I was hoping you'd chime in. Being empathetic
- WB, 2020-12-28, 17:36
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There were 14 failures by 1988
- Jim Taylor, 2020-12-27, 18:27
- I’ll take any you want to dispose of! (nm) - Df, 2020-12-27, 21:19
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One is always to much when it's you.
- WB, 2020-12-27, 19:52
- I went to the Ruger plant in Prescott in the 80's ... - Jim Taylor, 2020-12-27, 21:15
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I can't speak for other countries,
- IC, 2020-12-27, 19:48
- But, maybe that's not cheap enough. Interesting time to... - Huey, 2020-12-27, 13:39
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I think most of the failed guns were well used if not abused
- WB, 2020-12-27, 18:08
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To be somewhat fair, they did address and fix the issues ..
- Jim Taylor, 2020-12-27, 13:35
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The M9 was a poor choice ....
- Jim Taylor, 2020-12-27, 13:23
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Not to discourage but it’s interesting that
- WB, 2020-12-27, 11:55
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Those are great shooters, the mags are a little difficult
- WB, 2020-12-27, 11:43