thought better of it. My suggestion was keep it simple and go with a 445 Super Mag. My problem was those trying to get 454 Casull power out of a 30-30 cut down and chambered in 40 caliber. It ain't gonna happen. The 30-30 case is a good one but not as strong as some other common caliber brass. It wasn't meant to be as hunters a hundred years ago didn't need 454 power to kill a deer or black bear. To keep your brass to 1.6 keeps your powder capacity to a somewhat minimum.
Years ago Kase and I hunted a lot with our 30 Herretts which is a 30-30 case cut to 1.6". I tried to boost the power of the 30 Herrett up trying to hit the 2500 FPS mark and just ended up splitting the neck and shoulder of the case plus my accuracy went downhill. The 30 Herrett was a 125 grain bullet at 2200 fps. I hate to list energy as it is a mythical figure. Energy does not exist, period. That is why so many folks go by John Pondoro Taylor's TKO figures. It is much more realistic than energy figures as energy is solely dependent upon speed.
Anyway the 30 Herrett has 1300 FPE (energy) The 454 Casull is a 240 grain bullet at 1900 with 1955 FPE (energy). But anyone that has shot a 454 knows there is a helluva lot of difference in the two. Kase at 10 years old could handle the 30 Herrett with no problem at all, but I would never have given him a 454. My rambling here is mainly to get the point across that you are not going to get 454 Casull power out of a cut down 30-30 case chambered to 40 caliber.
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We need a 40 GNR
- Keith, 2022-09-18, 01:05
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400 GNR in an encore, cut case to 1.8" then load, no problem (nm)
- Sean Harper, 2022-09-19, 09:40
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You would have to work up new loads but I am
- Sean Harper, 2022-09-19, 09:50
- The Starline .38-55 Win. brass, if you can find them - WB, 2022-09-19, 11:07
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You would have to work up new loads but I am
- Sean Harper, 2022-09-19, 09:50
- .40-50 Sharps Straight is 1.875 inches - Pacecars, 2022-09-19, 02:57
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Something larger than .30-30 would be better
- WB, 2022-09-18, 06:13
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The 30-30/375 Win case is the point
- Keith, 2022-09-19, 10:02
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Yes .414 would be a unperceivable taper
- WB, 2022-09-20, 07:39
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I started to get into this "conversation" but
- Gary Reeder, 2022-09-20, 13:33
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True. As much as I love the odd .400 there
- WB, 2022-09-21, 14:23
- I've the same feelings about the 454 - AmBraCol, 2022-09-24, 15:16
- I don't think the goal is to get 454 performance - Keith, 2022-09-20, 14:20
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True. As much as I love the odd .400 there
- WB, 2022-09-21, 14:23
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I started to get into this "conversation" but
- Gary Reeder, 2022-09-20, 13:33
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Yes .414 would be a unperceivable taper
- WB, 2022-09-20, 07:39
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The 30-30/375 Win case is the point
- Keith, 2022-09-19, 10:02
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Or you could use the 460S&W case
- Blake, 2022-09-18, 04:09
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No problem. All it takes is 12 to 14 months and $2000
- Gary Reeder, 2022-09-18, 14:42
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The simplest and cheapest way to go is the 445 Super Mag.
- Gary Reeder, 2022-09-18, 14:53
- 30-30 more common 445, 375 Win close enough to 454 brass (nm) - Keith, 2022-09-19, 10:08
- The whole spirit of these laws are to open - WB, 2022-09-19, 06:34
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The simplest and cheapest way to go is the 445 Super Mag.
- Gary Reeder, 2022-09-18, 14:53
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No problem. All it takes is 12 to 14 months and $2000
- Gary Reeder, 2022-09-18, 14:42
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400 GNR in an encore, cut case to 1.8" then load, no problem (nm)
- Sean Harper, 2022-09-19, 09:40